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Eight Facts About Warming Up Your Car in Winter

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by surfsupl, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Jan 22, 2011 at 8:05 PM
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  2. Jan 22, 2011 at 8:43 PM
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    i dont think that you guys make more money than china. since they make everything and they arent 9 to 13 trillion in debt.
     
  3. Jan 22, 2011 at 9:27 PM
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    Your truck looks AWESOME! :D
     
  4. Jan 22, 2011 at 9:29 PM
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    There is no hope for your mind since you equate propaganda with fact.
     
  5. Jan 22, 2011 at 9:31 PM
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    I agree
     
  6. Jan 22, 2011 at 9:42 PM
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    Thats the thing about propaganda.. it only works if you equate it with fact.. :p
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    YUP no hope for me!^^^^:D
     
  7. Jan 22, 2011 at 9:48 PM
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    Yes.. thats the sad truth of U.S. economy right now. Its all smoke and mirrors
     
  8. Jan 22, 2011 at 11:02 PM
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    I think you mean everything YOU buy is Chinese. :)
    How do you like your Chinese Tacoma? :eek:

    I hate to spoil your Glenn Beck rant based on your purposeful ignorance, but here are the facts:

    Industry Statistics > Manufacturing, value added > current US$ (most recent) by country
    Rank Countries Amount Date
    # 1 United States: 1,545,400,000,000 $ 2004
    # 2 Japan: 961,930,900,000 $ 2004
    # 3 China: 748,078,800,000 $ 2005
    # 4 Germany: 565,520,200,000 $ 2004
    # 5 Italy: 291,326,600,000 $ 2005
    # 6 United Kingdom: 283,114,200,000 $ 2004
    # 7 France: 252,604,000,000 $ 2005
    # 8 Korea, South: 199,429,100,000 $ 2005
    # 9 Spain: 152,922,800,000 $ 2004
    # 10 Mexico: 122,221,400,000 $ 2005
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    "The economy of the United States is the world's largest national economy. Its nominal GDP was estimated to be $14.3 trillion in 2009, approximately a quarter of nominal global GDP.[1][11] Its GDP at purchasing power parity was also the largest in the world, approximately a fifth of global GDP at purchasing power parity.[1] The U.S. economy also maintains a very high level of output per capita. In 2009, it was estimated to have a per capita GDP (PPP) of $46,381, the 6th highest in the world.
    Historically, the U.S. economy has maintained a stable overall GDP growth rate, a low unemployment rate, and high levels of research and capital investment funded by both national and, because of decreasing saving rates, increasingly by foreign investors. It has been the world's largest national economy since 1944 and remains the world's largest manufacturer, representing 19% of the world's manufacturing output."
    _ Wikipedia

    Instead of listening to right wingnuts, try Googling independent sources.
     
  9. Jan 23, 2011 at 12:48 AM
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    those stats are old
     
  10. Jan 23, 2011 at 1:17 AM
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    Thats funny cause I dont watch Glenn Beck.. LOL.. never have.. its funny how far you are sucked into the false right left paradigm. you probably think glen beck is my leader lol.. ohh and I am supposed to think you are getting all your info from keith olbermann or something. Its also funny how you think some statistic chart like the one below tells the whole story. even though it suggests that you are wrong it still does not tell the whole story. I think you are probably a smart guy but smart people defend bad ideas all the time for example Hitler. not comparing you to Hitler its just an example. Just go to Walmart the united states largest retailer and try to find something made in the USA. you may find something but you will probably pick up 20 or so items made in india and china first. even Japan outsorces manufacturing to china. They have many cheap laborers and an artifically low currancy.


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  11. Jan 23, 2011 at 2:47 AM
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    man, bizzaro world! Anyway, because you're unwilling to look it up, here are the cliffnotes. The theory of man made global warming was created before any evidence supported it, then those people set out to find evidence to support their theory in order to scam the world into changing global policy. Recently, hard proof was found that those numbers that were used were completely 100% doctored. Look up climagate. NO REAL SCIENCE SUPPORTS GLOBAL WARMING!!! Every shred of REAL evidence points towards the exact opposite. So far it has been the worlds largest scam.

    The global climate has been way hotter and way colder than it is right now way before humans ever walked the earth. On many occasions, it goes in cycles. Every single bit of scientific logic and observance directly supports that man made global warming does not exist, so there would have to be some crazy overwhelming amazing evidence to prove that it does, but there isn't. Not even close. Just a few phony numbers by people with a bad agenda.
     
  12. Jan 23, 2011 at 8:13 AM
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    So you now admit you were wrong when you said 'everything we buy is chinese [sic]?

    You are certainly correct when you point out cheap Chinese labor is a big factor that is making it hard for us to compete in many industries. What is the solution? The world is truly becoming a global economy. The day when the American semi skilled worker can pull down a wage 20X that of an overseas worker is drawing to a close.

    Rather than rail against the reality of a world of instant communication, high speed transportation, and global markets, the only solution is to become a more productive worker, to increase one's personal skills and education.
     
  13. Jan 23, 2011 at 8:21 AM
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    You are obviously looking at biased sources reporting only what they want. The 'climategate' issue has long been cleared up. The guy and University these biased nuts accused was exonerated. You can read about it on Wikipedia or in Nature magazine.

    http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100922/full/467381a.html

    This silliness you are buying hook line and sinker stems from a blip in the data that showed some significant ocean cooling around 1970 during a dramatic overall rise in ocean temperatures from 1850 to 2000

    http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100922/images/_tmp_articling-import-20100922081742470674_467381a-i1.0.jpg

    Understanding, let alone proving the causes of climate change is indeed very difficult, in particular against a backdrop of extreme climate changes that have been part of Earth history long before the industrial age.

    My issue is with the 'know nothings' that, for reasons of their own, refuse to accept even the possibility that man made pollution is a cause of the current warming cycle.

    These anti science nincompoops use the truth that we have always had climate change to claim that among all the varied causes of these cycles, the one single factor that is impossible is man's activity. Their motive? They refuse to accept that there is any reason to take personal responsibility and to consider modifying their behavior
     
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    Anybody still wanna straighten me out if I say this thread is no longer about warming up your car in winter?
     
  16. Jan 23, 2011 at 9:39 AM
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    with all the pics of palin, and the talk about gub'ment, it's looking more and more political = lock'd.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I get you now Brother
     
  18. Jan 23, 2011 at 1:48 PM
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    Since tonight supposed to be -6 F I would like to know where is that sop called global warming. Its cold in US, Cold in Europe, Cold in North Asia. So where oh were its that global warming.

    BTW Today I idled my LC for 45 minutes this thing burns gallon of fuel per hour just standing :D
     
  19. Jan 23, 2011 at 1:57 PM
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    Im having Global Blowing at my place.....been windy all day :(
     
  20. Jan 23, 2011 at 1:59 PM
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    I think climate change is more accurate than global warming .

    Global blowing is a localized phenominon.
     

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