Dobinsons 2016-2023 Taco Suspension Options

That’s what I’ve heard/come to understand. Is there anything I should do for better CV angle or will the new UCAs take care of any issues?

EDIT: or does it matter at all? I am under the impression I run it as whatever it is and if a boot rips then I’ll take it it somewhere to do the boot slide mod since it seems a bit more involved than I understand currently

 

To be fair, if you do mostly overlanding or lightweight, a div drop won't hurt you.

Also, if your suspension lift is under 3 in you might be able to get away without any CV boots tearing and whatnot. It does happen though, there are plenty of aftermarket extended travel CV options, or various mods (like the boot slide)

 

I don't have any install pics, but here is one of the left side boots. I don't think you will have a problem with the boots rubbing. I don't have a diff drop and have had no problems.

 

Awesome, thanks for the pic. What grease did you use when installing the bushings into the new leaf springs? My stock leafs are so squeaky, sounds like I run over a mouse every time I hit the slightest bump… I didn’t order new bushings or bolts, so I’ll be reusing the stock ones for now. I’ve been told to just grease the bushing interior until it looks like a biscuit and gravy

 

I used bearing grease I had on hand, but I don't think I used enough. One side is quiet and the other is just starting to creak a little. I need to pull it apart and use more. I did follow the directions @Crikeymike told me. He did tell me not to put grease somewhere, but I don't remember now. I'll have to look that up or he can chime in here.

 

Supposed to grease the working surfaces, which is the inside of the bushing (same as outside of the sleeve) and then inside the bushing where the bolt goes through to avoid corrosion later. Also on the outer faces of the bushings where it meets the spring hanger or shackles.

If the OD of the bushing (same as inside the spring eye) gets greased, the bushing has a chance to rotate there when it's not supposed to, and over time that creates that noise, the noise of a poly bushing creaking against the metal spring eye. Think of it like the OE bushings, they're pressed in and the OD doesn't move at all. Only the sleeve is supposed to move, so the surface it rides on gets greased.

 

Just wanted to share for anyone running C59-350 springs and GS59-220 struts up front and trying to stuff 35's. I've had a hell of a bad time with this setup as it simply does not lift the truck enough and you will get major rubbing on the top of your wheel well, even on dips and bumps around town. My truck has quite the rake (2" from back to front) since that front combo doesn't lift the truck very much.

For a cheap 'fix', I added wheelers superbump spacers to my wheelers superbumps and it has mostly solved the issue. The suspension does basically ride on the bump stops at all times but it's not super rough as those bump stops are pretty soft. If anyone has yet to buy C59-350 springs and GS59-220 struts I'd highly advise against it if you want to run 35's. I think dobinsons stuff is good but I would not go with that combo as it does not lift the truck enough to clear big tires. Something with an adjustable collar would be better and I hope to upgrade to something like that in the future.

 

Back clearance, front clearance, and riding on bumps

 

That's the way those bumps are designed to work since they're longer than stock.

Hub to fender measurements are the only useful measurements to share.

Why are you running those coils? What added weight do you have and what lift height were you shooting for? Tire clearance is a tire problem. Not a suspension problem specifically.

 

I'm saying the superbump spacers helped my rubbing issue. I've been running these superbumps since I put the lift on, but have rubbed really bad the whole time. With the spacers it's much less of an issue. Have to really hit a dip hard to bottom out now.

This is the suspension setup that you recommended I buy. I talked with you before buying this. I have a steel front bumper, winch, and dual battery setup up front so there's a lot of weight. It honestly needs to sit about an inch higher. I mean just look at my CV's. Most guys I see with 35's and lifts do not have that flat of a CV angle. I totally get that the flatter the better on that, but then I'm running into all the rubbing issues, so I had to get the superbump spacers to try and limit my uptravel as much as possible. Most Tacoma's I've seen with 35's have a bit more lift up front. Am I not understanding this correctly?

Are these not the right springs I should be running?

 

Biscuit and gravy!

I should have gone with the 354 springs to start, and I'd recommend them to anyone adding all that front weight. The spring rate is all the same, so if the lift is too high at max threads, then you back the collar off. I went with 352 at max thread showing, and had to add the top spacer. Can you add the spacer like I did to get that extra 1/2"? See here

 

Update on my order: got both leafs, but unfortunately everything else is delayed until Saturday. I'll do my best to install everything Saturday afternoon/evening, but I'll be by myself until mid-evening

 

Actually yea I already have some strut spacers sitting on my shelf. I haven't installed them yet but was going to do it as a last resort. So no issues running a top mount strut spacer then? Ride is the same? Guess I would just need an alignment. I know I need to have longer studs installed as well.

 

That particular 1/4" spacer works with the OEM top studs. I don't think we even did an alignment after adding the spacer and maxing out the thread count, and the truck rides straight. Mike recommended them as a bandaid instead of swapping out for 354 coils. (1/4" spacer adds 1/2" lift)

 

Nice! This is the one I bought

Hopefully it'll work ok. I was a little worried my upper control arm and spindle would hit the spring coil on full droop but I guess there's only one way to find out. Wonder why it's supposed to be more of a "band-aid" and not something pretty standard for additional lift? I'm not looking for a ton here, but an additional half inch would be perfect.

 

Anything that says "spacer" is a bandaid at best.

Ideally you have coils at the right height/compression rate, but with 1000x variables, sith happens.

Spacers mess with compression/and or rebound (depending on application) and are fine for show but not ideal for performance

 

For sure, you always want the correct spring length to take full advantage of the coil-over travel distance. I plan on eventually swapping out to 354s when I do my coil-over tower gussets and BBK, but currently there are no noticeable ill effects from the 1/4" spacer. And, I wouldn't recommend going any taller than 1/4" for this bandaid fix. GL!

 

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@Crikeymike I currently have MRA's up front with the C59-314 springs. I will be adding a new bumper that is about 90 lbs plus a winch. I already have a aluminum front Skid, steel transmission and transfer skid, as well as sliders. Should I step up to the C59-352 spring?

 

Yes. That would be a good spring to use with the added weight and put you back at the same height or you can adjust up or down on your MRA'S