Magnuson Supercharger Mega Thread for 16+ Tacoma - Unboxing, Install DIY, Dyno Video

I feel lucky as I haven’t noticed any loss of acceleration or downshifting issues with the Magnuson. I have many miles and trailer towing. And $600 is not to much for a quality tune. Many paid more for OVTune. I would price a Magnuson tune at $900 at least.

 

It won't be that high.

 

If there isn’t a significant performance difference I think $600+ is a little steep. Yes I know a good tune can be pricey, but that’s a tune specifically made for that engine. Each car is built and behaves differently. This is why ovtune couldn’t make everyone happy.

 

Well, that's also because everyone has a different opinion on how the vehicle should behave, even if every single truck behaved identically.

 

I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion just yet… There are a few things people are not aware of pertinent to this specific truck and the runs that were done on the dyno. First of all being the clutch. Second has to do with the fact the runs were done in 4th… not 3rd gear like everyone else’s in this community including the OP of this thread. There is a very good reason for that, and the next runs will be done in 3rd gear with a clutch that can handle the increase in power. We wanted to run in 4th due to it being 1:1 but it automatically drops the power and torque numbers when compared with 1.32:1 in 3rd gear, and also brings about safety issues the ECU throws at the tune once over 100 mph.

Further, the clutch was noted to be slipping with the Yotawerx tune on the stock pulley… NOT with the magnuson.

Leveling the playing field… soon.

 

Do you think the AFE catted “header” and URD Spec U exhaust would unleash worthwhile power gains with the Magnuson and tune? AFE claims +12hp and +22tq on stock application I think.

Pretty spendy exhaust at the end of the day. Worth it in your opinion?

 

Changing headers on forced induction applications almost always results in more power. I wouldn’t be surprised if it yields the amount stated.

That crush bent OEM Y pipe as it traverses over from driver to passenger definitively zaps some power. Just changing out to the URD Y pipe yields 9 WTQ between 2000-3300 rpm on the 3.5L NA and yes you can feel the difference down low in the problem area. This dyno was done on the same day, just swapped out the Y pipe for direct comparison on OV tune 2.0 with 4th gear run. For the supercharged 3.5L that difference is probably a bit more.

I will have the URD SPEC U equal length Y pipe and exhaust dyno tested as compared with the TRD exhaust and stock Y pipe on this supercharged truck soon. The system was ordered awhile back but URD has supply issues along with the rest of the nation.

 

I still have my Doug thorley y-pipe in my garage for sale too lol local pickup only though. El Paso, TX.

Flowed excellently with the twin turbos

 

Any plans to address the rev hang on the MT? Or is that just a part of life for us?

 

600 for a canned and flashed tune is absurd. 600 for a dyno tune is good. My dyno tuned wrx and nova were 400 each. Just for comparison

 

I've never had the same "war on rev hang, death to rev hang!" complex that many others have, because I do not view the Tacoma as a race truck, boosted or not, and honestly I never will.

I personally don't mind some rev hang because it's a truck, and it's to be expected. Especially at higher rpm's.

That being said, I feel like I addressed rev hang *reasonably* well when developing the Coyoza tune and I believe what I will be providing you guys with this tune will be appreciated. There's only so much that can be done though.

My personal recommendation is that people accept that if they want to be banging gears and watching the rpm's drop like a rock between shifts, they get a different vehicle.

I felt that my tach needle fell at an appropriate rate while driving spiritedly with my TTs and while NA and tuned.

 

I don’t think @mZiggy has ever said this tune was going to be $600. That figure along with a few others were put out by other forum members who have no involvement with the tune. I can also guarantee than no vf pro tuner would be able to dyno tune the truck for $600 and have addressed everything we have at this point. They may be able to make more power for that one pull on the dyno but if it drives worse than the Magnuson file you probably aren’t going g to be happy no matter the cost. I mentioned it earlier but I’ve done 50 datalogs and we have been through 30 file revisions. This is just the A/T stuff not including what @Formidable has done with dyno time/logs and feedback on the M/T side.

 

I'd stated a couple days ago that the current minimum for the tune would be $600. But I did clarify in a follow up post that nothing is set in stone yet.

 

Yimi sport who dynoed my WRX, def did not only done one pull. The tuner who did the Nova did not do one pull. However, it all comes down to experience and time. They use a canned tune I assume for a baseline and then tweak it from there based off of how the vehicle data logged. I know theres a ton of time and effort put in. Just sharing my experience

 

Ultimately, this is why I elected to give an indication of where the minimum price currently sits prior to tune release, rather than waiting until the tune is finalized. Because as I explained somewhere above, maybe a page back, idk, the hours and weeks and months of effort that have gone into this are not worth nothing. And I firmly believe that anybody else who puts in the same level of effort would feel the same. But, the price is not currently finalized.

Figuring out an ideal price is never easy. It's not easy to quantify what your time and effort is worth and balance it against what people are willing to pay.

As @a2lowvw has discussed and @Formidable at some point however many posts back, weeks and months of personal time have been sacrificed for this tune in the form of screen time, road time, dyno runs, swapping drivers for second and third opinions. This tune does not only address power/power delivery. When *most* people discuss dyno-tuning, they are *only* discussing optimization of power at WOT, because such extreme focus on non-WOT drivability enhancements like what the Tacoma has always needed is not generally a concern. Most vehicles already drive great and so dyno-tuning is just representative of performance at WOT.

And this tune is not something that anybody is entitled to, it's not some additional update on behalf of Magnuson. This is the product of somebody unaffiliated with Magnuson producing a product for the community, and there will always be happy and unhappy parties with any product release.

Regardless of the final price that is settled on, regardless of whether it is 600 or not, updates to the tune will be made available for free to customers, where applicable.

 

FWIW, it’s a supply and demand curve function. I paid ~$1200 for my Cobb OTS tune for my Macan. Lots more WRX’s getting tuned than Macans. The Taco probably falls below both in count.

OVTune was ~$750 for kit and tune. Split roughly evenly when I bought mine. If we’re taking opinions, I think $500 for a SC tune and some coverage for updates is the sweet spot.

I don’t know if VfTuner can do it or not, but it would be really awesome if they could lock certain tables in a tune and let end users tweak small things like shift points or tire sizes. The secret sauce could remain hidden.

 

Cobb does some good stuff. I looked at them as well before I did the Yimi tune. Does make sense based off of supply and demand for the given application. I assume, as did you, not a lot are tuning their tacoma. However, a lot are tuning the WRX. The macan is a diff thing all together. Lets add in the prestige of Porsche and, I can assume a very limited amount of people tuning them. I personally would not pay that much for a canned tune, as that is dyno territory for a more personalized and maximized tune. Each motor runs just a little bit different. But I do understand the ease of a canned tune that is very good, as I am sure this will be by what is described

 

I have this exact setup, into a dual-outlet Flowmaster 70. I did it to prep for the Maggy SC which I'm holding off on until the tuning is straightened out, and I'm happy to read that it's getting close. The trial and error was "worth it" to me just to get the sound I wanted.

 

@mZiggy Man, I'm starting to feel bad about asking for a price point before the tune is actually released... At this point we've basically highjacked @op's thread. Lol

 

People are welcome to discuss and ask questions on the YotaWerx Tuning thread, for YotaWerx related topics. Updates will of course be posted there, as well as on social media.

I agree, this isn't really the most appropriate setting for pricing discussion, and so I won't be answering anything further regarding tune pricing.