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Heavy E-Load tires and stock suspension?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by REKER, Nov 22, 2021.

  1. Nov 22, 2021 at 1:15 PM
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    teddiethetaco

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    Yea, I have been looking for 265/75/16 SL in Canada and its anywhere from 220-270 a tire so I am hoping to find a used set or some sort of deal. Hard time to find a good deal when everyone is looking for winter tires right now
     
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  2. Nov 22, 2021 at 2:19 PM
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    Im taking nothing personal. This is good stuff for a monday.
     
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  3. Nov 22, 2021 at 4:37 PM
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    I doubt anyone has done enough experimentation to know if larger tires cause extra wear of the suspension components. I think you are going to need to wing it.

    Tire diameter, width, rubber compound, rubber thickness, and tread design all affect the rolling resistance of the tire and thus the performance of your truck. There is a very noticeable and measurable difference between my 255/85r16 mud terrains and the stock all terrains.
     
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  4. Nov 22, 2021 at 7:09 PM
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    Just added toolbox and roof-rack to haul my fishing boat 100's of miles into the backwoods every week. Goodrich K02s, Bilstein 5100 front and back, no lift.
    They didn't. They waited for the Internet to be created. That is why we have such a backlog of questions now.
     
  5. Nov 22, 2021 at 7:11 PM
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    I always regret E loads when I put them on, but love them on the trails. Good ol' 2% purchases.
     
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  6. Nov 22, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    Just added toolbox and roof-rack to haul my fishing boat 100's of miles into the backwoods every week. Goodrich K02s, Bilstein 5100 front and back, no lift.
    I am in Kelowna BC. Yes, tires are not cheap in the E load rating. I just installed a set of KO2's in size 265 75 16. Installed price (on my stock rims, old KO2's were shot) including balance and taxes was $1460.00

    Locally here, no one even had access to the KO2's in that size. In all of Canada I could not find a set of KO2's in the stock 265 70 16. None of the local tire shops had access to KO2's in 265 75 16, only the local Toyota dealer that had them in their warehouse. Called 6 other tire shops, all said they can't get KO2s in 265 75 16 at this time.

    By the way, I actually got the best wheel balance I have ever had on any of my trucks in the last 35 years. I was concerned the dealer would not get it right, but in fact they did it better than any of the tire shops I've dealt with all these years. Imagine that hey?

    As for the OPs questions about wear and tear on the suspension, my truck is stock except for Bilstein 5100's front and back. My older KO2's ( E rating ) were actually pretty quiet tires, and a smooth ride. Until I hit 40,000 miles on them and then all hell broke loose. After that, it was like driving on a gravel logging road when on pavement. So at 50,000 miles on the tires (KO2 in 265 70 16) I installed the new set at the bigger 265 75 16. They still had about 6mm on the tread but they rode so rough and noisy I was done with them. Drove me insane after 40K miles, but I love them for off-road so I got another set. The new ones are very quiet on pavement.

    Now, I've done over 10,000 miles off-road in the last 3 years and really bad roads. The kind that wear out your hips, back etc, and are just not fun to drive. Very hard on the truck, a lot of bad washboard roads, and thousands of foot deep potholes. Plus some 4x4 rock crawling in there as well.

    At 45,000 miles I replaced my front left wheel hub, CV axle, and inner needle bearing. All went close to the same time. I don't think it has anything to do with the tires per se, but just how hard the truck has been driven. The 3rd gen Taco's do have some issues with the inner bearing on drivers side not lasting too long, and once that went it contributed to the CV axle and wheel hub going as well. But that is on some shithole roads, the kind you don't want to drive a second time but I am stuck with them as my fishing lakes are down those roads.
     
  7. Nov 22, 2021 at 7:59 PM
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    It's already been said a bunch... But it's a BIG difference.

    I went with 265/75/16 e rated general atx from stock, lost 2-3 MPG and a very noticeable amount of power. Do not do it if you don't off-road/ carry heavy loads.

    Also they are thick as hell and ride hard at highway pressures
     
  8. Nov 22, 2021 at 8:35 PM
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    I’ve got around 200k miles running E rated 265/75 r16 or 255/85r16 sizes. 233k miles on the truck total.

    Still on all stock front end components. 1 alignment since new.
     
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    Your truck is gonna ride like like crap and won’t be able to get out of its own way with big E rated tires . If your dead set on it I would get a tune / regear to try and make up for lost power .
     
  10. Nov 23, 2021 at 5:17 AM
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    Thanks everyone for the feedback. This is exactly what I wanted to hear. As much as I like the Baja Boss AT's, there is really no up-side for my needs outside of aesthetics. Looks like the Cooper Rugged Treks are still my top choice.
     
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    Some Serious Tires
    What?
     
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    lol
     
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    I know…

    He probably read all this on TW and got zero experience running e loads.
     
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  14. Nov 23, 2021 at 7:59 AM
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    I went from stock 265/70r16 to 265/75R16 10 ply, seen a small decrease in MPG, but nothing in performance. I can tell you depending on the size you are looking at some tires are made in 6 ply and some are not. Look at the load rating capacities before you choose. Most 6 plys will have a lower Load rating capacity than the P-Metric tire by about 200 lbs or so. In my personnel opinion and I sell tires for a living on the wholesale side, 6 ply or C rated tires are one of the worst things manufactures have made in a long time.
     
  15. Nov 23, 2021 at 8:03 AM
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    C load will have more load capacity at higher psi. At 30 psi, SL will have more load capacity.

    C loads are awesome, more durable than SL but not as heavy as E.
     
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    LOL @ dropping a line like this and not elaborating. Provide factual evidence please.
     
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    :meh: I've ran C, D and E. I hated the E on my LC (different story), D was great for that truck and use. Im running C's in the AT3W and seem like a nice compromise across the board for a light truck and needs.
     
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  18. Nov 23, 2021 at 10:19 AM
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    I had the same thought after 25k miles with E rated KM3s. My front shocks were so bad the tires had severe cupping and became insanely noisy. I figured stock shocks would've lasted longer but at almost 100lbs per wheel and tire i think that played a major role in degradation. I have since replaced with eibach 2.0 and my clanks and bouncing have been eliminiated, hoping those cupped tires can be saved by running in the rear. Only thing i would do differently would have been to replace the suspension when i did the tires. Stock tires had 6 punctures within 20k and since the E load 10plys not a single puncture in 25k miles worth it in my book. Def more stiff than C loads.
     
  19. Nov 23, 2021 at 10:20 AM
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    My truck didn't like E rated. I am trying these Maxxis Razr AT's. 116T XL's. They weigh 39lbs each! I feel like if you aren't wheeling crazy these are just fine. And snow-rated.The E Rated will probably last longer than these but so far so good.
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    The internet hoopla will make you scared to run Load Range E tires. I took the plunge and have been running em and no regrets. Running 265/75/16 load E MTs. They are not for the faint of heart though !!
     
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