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Tire tread wearing very fast!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by outdoor frenzy, Dec 5, 2021.

  1. Dec 5, 2021 at 7:07 PM
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    I get it is advertised that way but I would be doubtful that is the case when they roll off the line.
     
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  2. Dec 5, 2021 at 7:11 PM
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    Sorry, thought you were referring to the Nittos. Yeah the Duratracs definitely had a hum and tend to cup because of the more of a mud terrain outer lugs. I loved the way they looked but I cannot recommend good years for anything anymore.
     
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    Okay.
    But now you got me curious; why?
     
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    Perhaps, someone is rubbing your tires with a gigantic sand papers (most likely 60 or 80 grits). Christmas is close, so my money is on grinch.
     
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    Because shaving a few 32nds off a tire does not sound like much but if you multiply it by a million tires it moves the bottom line of profit a lot! Also assists in less rotating mass and assist the stats and regulations for the manufacture.
     
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    I have a 2021 Silverado with 2,900 miles on it sitting in my driveway and the tread depth is 8/32 on the factory Bridgestones. Just manufactures cutting corners. When I buy a new vehicle I factor in new tires in 20-30k.

    Bridgestone list the OE tire at 11/32.
     
  7. Dec 5, 2021 at 7:37 PM
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    Ah...
    Now I see where you're coming from.
    It's your belief the OE tire is only available to the vehicle manufacturer.
     
  8. Dec 5, 2021 at 8:02 PM
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    Good evening,
    Here is my observation and experience with stock tires comes with vehicle.
    1-st:
    Korean minivan, tires were (can't remember name) but Good Year manufacturer. Premature worn, at 30 000km they were pretty much bald.
    Call 1 800 warranty claim number provided, visit inspection facility, ending up on 3-way speaker phone conversation between me, inspection man and
    manufacturer representative. Got 75% discount (!) for new set of tires of my choice. Happy.
    2-nd:
    Nissan X-Terra, BFG rugged trail tires. Almost same story, 28000 km and they at 4/32". Again inspection and negotiation and I got set of BFG TA KO2's with 60%
    discount. Happy.
    Same size/model of tire, purchased in tire shop will match claimed warranty mileage, +/-
    Tire you got with truck turns to dust very fast.
    My point: vehicle manufacturers ordering tires for their vehicles made as cheap as possible. 9 out of 10 people will never file warranty claim, most people never ever
    thinking about this way.
    My advice: Call and claim premature worn tires case. Go to inspection facility they point you, you will get something of that. Especially in your case, it seems like your tires
    wearing out super fast.
     
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    No, I believe it runs across the entire OE line of that tire. Hence the reason I never buy tires at the dealer or an OE replacement. I mean this is no conspiracy. Pretty common knowledge.
     
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    So, you're saying the OE Canadian tire as available from Tire Rack is not going to measure the advertised 11/32"; more like 9/32"?

    I'm not trying to be contentious; I'm as suspicious and skeptical as they come, but I find that hard to believe. It's the first I've heard someone make that particular claim...
     
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    Feel free to take a tire gauge and check man. Manufacturers exist to make money. I have not had a set of OE tires with more than 30k on them for over 20 years. Hell, swing by a dealer and test it for yourself. Either the compound is different or there is less tread. I mean you can see the tread depth is not as deep on a tire on a new vehicle but yes.
     
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    Oh, I hear you...
    The 200 short miles I had the Goodyears on my truck, they were shit.
    It's not really on me to provide your evidence, though. Again, I'm not trying to start an argument. I'll eat crow all day long, as long as I learn something factual.

    But, say I did go the dealer and measured 11/32", then your claim is, it must be a different tread compound; or, the vehicle manufacturer does in fact have sole access to the OE tire. So, I don't see how me measuring would prove one way or the other. But, say I did go to a dealer and measured them at 11/32" and they had the same manufacturer's model number as available from Tire Rack, what then?
     
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    Thanks for the great advice! Every other new car I’ve purchased new, one with Goodyear tires, has done amazing with tire tread life. This is the first time I’ve seen this. I’m worried I won’t have enough tread to get me through the winter.
     
  14. Dec 5, 2021 at 9:03 PM
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    Hahahaha!! Maybe it’s because I drove about 2,000 miles in the desert of Thanksgiving week.
     
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    What Is A UTQG Treadwear Rating?
    The UTQG (Uniform Tire Quality Grade) treadwear rating, also known as a treadwear grade, is a number stamped on the tire sidewall that relates to expected tire life.

    In basic terms, and in the spirit of the concept, the higher the UTQG treadwear rating, the greater the tire life. A tire with a "600" treadwear rating is forecasted to last twice as long as a tire with a "300" rating, and should accumulate three times the mileage of a "200" rated tire.

    To understand how treadwear ratings vary and for basic real world reference points, consider that standard touring all-season tires engineered for high mileage can have treadwear ratings in the "700-800" range. In contrast, motorsport tires for racing, which are focused on maximum grip (tire life is a distant secondary concern) might have a treadwear rating in the "100" range, or even less.

    How can you use UTQG treadwear ratings when researching and buying tires?
    First you have to understand the limitations of the treadwear ratings information. While the UTQG treadwear rating is mandated by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration*, and the testing process is supposed to be the same for all manufacturers, the NHTSA does not test tires and assign the ratings. Rather, it's the tire manufacturers' duty to conduct (or commission) the testing.

    This means that UTQG treadwear ratings are not established by an objective testing organization, or according to a universal ratings scale. A "400" treadwear rating from Tire Manufacturer A doesn't necessarily equal a "400" treadwear rating from Tire Manufacturer B; the mileage lifespan of the two tires under equal driving conditions could be quite different.

    If you're trying to choose between tires of the same type from the same manufacturer, the treadwear rating could be a deciding factor.
    Treadwear ratings are therefore most informative and helpful when comparing tires from the same manufacturer. If you're trying to choose between tires of the same type from the same manufacturer, the treadwear rating could be a deciding factor. Tire manufacturers could be accused of inflating their treadwear ratings to appear superior to the competition, or even being conservative on the ratings in certain circumstances. However, within their own product range, the ratings should correspond to actual testing results.

    When comparing treadwear grades of tires from two or more manufacturers, treadwear ratings are less instructive. However, we wouldn’t say that it’s pointless to consider the ratings from different manufacturers.

    There is often a correlation between treadwear rating and actual tire life. Across the range of tire categories, it's common for tires with high UTQG ratings to be favorably reviewed by users when it comes to treadlife. A tire with a "600" treadwear rating might not last exactly 3 times as long as a tire with a "200" treadwear rating, but it's a safe assumption that the "600" rated tire will be longer-lasting.

    If you're shopping for a high-mileage set of tires, a low treadwear rating is a red flag and an indication that the tire might fall short of your mileage expectations.
    The treadwear rating can therefore be used as one data point to help guide your tire purchase decision. If you're shopping for a high-mileage set of tires, a low treadwear rating is a red flag and an indication that the tire might fall short of your mileage expectations.

    Especially when considered in combination with the tire treadlife warranty, the UTQG treadwear rating provides a preview of expected tire life. It's definitely not a perfect ratings scale or system, but if long tire life is a priority for you, consider the treadwear rating and the treadlife warranty. Also be sure to check out the TireBuyer.com user reviews for mileage feedback – you’ll find them on the "Reviews" tab on every TireBuyer.com product page.
     
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    I’m more than familiar with how tires work and how they are rated. Not sure why you even put this here. I’m a 42 year old who’s bought 100’s of tires in my automotive life time. I used to sling tires back in the day and mounted them for a couple of years. Not that it was common knowledge, but I find your post pointless.
     
  17. Dec 6, 2021 at 4:33 PM
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    Okay, so I went and measured the spare and it comes in under the 11/32 mark but not by too much. It’s more than 21/64. This puts the tread brand new under 9mm and my tread depth ranges from just shy of 7mm to just over 7.5mm. After looking at the numbers again I guess it’s not quite as bad as I had thought it was last night.

    DF=.275” - 6.985mm
    DR=.295” - 7.493mm
    PF=.284” - 7.214mm
    PR=.298” - 7.569mm
    SP=.334” - 8.483mm
     

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