Don't let it look like a Tundra

Please Toyota, don't put a big-ass ugly Tundra grill on the next generation of Tacomas.
It looks like crap.

 

I could care less. After this thing is paid off. She's being set aside and won't be doing much more than towing/offroad duty till hydrogren/ev ends up being more common than gas. So the 4th gen won't be a thing by then.

 

Cooling should not be an issue!

 

I think it looks great!

 

I Honestly think the new Tundra looks nice with the exception of the variants that have the chrome Hulk Hogan mustache. Being that the Land cruiser uses that power train overseas, not too worried about the reliability factor.

 

Need to go balls out like GMC and chrome the shit out of it

 

Sux like a Lexus grill

 

Same platform, you're gonna be disappointed.

Toyota really needed to follow Nissans cheating frame design from their trucks.

The Xterra, Frontier, Titan, Armada, Pathfinder all used similar parts and designs. It meant a lot cheaper costs for the failing brand.

It already looks like a lot will be shared, which is fine.

NO MORE LEAF SPRINGS PLZ

 

Or rear drum brakes.

I’m not a technician, I’m easily intimidated by drum brakes.
And I prefer not to work on them.
I’ve done them, but I never once have an good experience working with them.
Yeah, they last last a long time. Other than that, I’d prefer disks.

 

Tell me you know nothing about payload without telling me you know nothing about payload.

There is a reason why for trucks leaf springs are common, with airsprings being the second most common (mostly for commercial for reasons I won't get to indepth on),. They distribute weight well, are easy to increase the payload on, easier to fix,, are more robust to corrosion,, and overall handle overloading better than a coil.

Switching to a multilink or Macpherson system defeats the purpose of the truck.

 

Who the heck thinks the rear will be MacPherson?

It will be coil and I can assure you, the engineers know how to match payload with a coil spring.

Rear multilink is superior in everyway except cost.

Sorry that every truck under 1 ton is switching to coil springs, that must mean everyone is stupid but you?

 

So the ridgeline is every truck? Yeah okay. Please tell me more about how the commerical market is wrong by being dominated by leaf and airbag suspension. Also please I want citations on how every midsize up to the 2500 series of trucks are all going coil in the rear.

 

i always thought the Tundra was a good lookin truck

not so much macho as others attempt to be

remember the Rock Em Sock Em toys..........................looks like they stole the design intentions

applied them to the Tundra

its definitely an Ugly Truck !!!!

 

It's changing whether you like it or not. I'm not talking commercial or a unibody honda. Customer grade pick ups.

Ram is already coil spring 2500. Expect to see it on other models next refresh. 1500 has been optional for sometime, and heavily preferred.

I thought F150 was coil already, apparently its just the Raptor and Hybrid. Heck the electric uses a coil over shock style.

It's the future. Believe it or not customers want more than payload.

 

Raptor yes, because it's an offroad orientated truck which is where you want trailing arms and coils, not a regular truck. Personally I could care less about what fiat does as they produce trash.

You're falling into the appeal to novelty fallacy. You are treating leaf spring like it is bad because it is older. Like a knife is worse than scissors for eating steak. There is a reason why leafspring, trailing arm, multi link (both 3 and 5 point), MacPherson strut and double wishbone are all used today.

I gave good reasons why leafspring is used on almost all trucks and you outright ignored it and claimed "multilink is just better". You even tried getting me on the "I said coil not MacPherson" bullshit when MacPherson is a type of coil spring suspension, in fact the most common due to its compact nature over double wishbone and multilink (see what I did there?).

Stop being a tech fan boy. I've owned vehicles with multiple types of suspension, from the multilink front and rear of my audi, MacPherson front and trailing rear of my 944, and even that wierd 3 point shut hyundai/kia does on their car's for some winter beaters.

If you want a truck that actually does truck things, and isn't an offroader with a bed, or a suv with a bed crossdressing as a truck, you either go with leaves for the load, reliability, and swappability, or bags for the adjustability for payload/comfort. Coils are not a good choice for those applications.

Coils are great is for control of spring progression (linear or progressive), packaging, and ride height adjustability.

Different suspension systems for different uses.

 

But the average 40-000 - 60,000$ truck isn't used as a work truck, they are driven to and from work. Especially Tacoma.

The tundra and tacoma both suffer from poor driving characteristics, both caused from rear suspension. Moreso the tundra, it shakes like crazy over little bumps and transmits quickly.

I'll agree that for work, a leaf is perfect, simple and easy to replace.

But the average consumer, especially Toyota consumer would benefit from multilink.

 

I don’t know, where I live a lot of average Tacoma owners use their trucks for work and for heavy duty yard care because we live in the forest. Sure, a city person may benefit from a coil spring set up, but I would say that more people use their trucks for work than you might think. A lot of the companies up here prefer the Tacoma for work as it is smaller and can get through these tight forest roads with enough equipment for nearly any job. My Tacoma sees more work than my dads 2500 Duramax but his Duramax has cost him tons more in repairs than my Taco ever will because of things like injectors and over priced basic parts that say diesel on them.

 

looks like a computer composite ( lego truk )

would easily look better if Not black vs white

 

Looks like an Avalon.