Is there a way to change the default Cruise Control?

You actually don’t need tech stream for a lot. I’m sure tech stream offers a lot more options to change, but I use the Carista OBDii Bluetooth adapter, it offers you the ability to make changes to the TSS, minimal, but it does. I know that it’s default setting can be changed, ie. remembering the last mode or default on at each start up.

I can plug it in and get some screen shoots if anyone wants.

 

Oooh, neat! Kind of annoying that it's subscription-based but I could probably live with it.

 

yes, I did buy the subscription. I’ll cancel it after the year I should have all the options set how I want by then. Then pay for the one week option if I need to make changes later.

 

Does carista do anything that can't be done in vehicle through entune menus or setup mode?

 

Yes, I'll get screen shots from my phone soon and you can see what else is avail.

*edit* to be fair, when i bought my '19 pro it already had a dasaita 10 in it. So I don't honestly know what the entune system allowed you to configure. But, I do know that that on my '17 OR, there were quite a few configurations Entune did not allow you to change.

 

I have Techstream so I'm good on settings, just though carista was a shortcut for the entune and oem setup menus

 

Carista is the middle ground of the two. Not as much as Techstream can give, but more than onboard Entune

 

I think you are responding to my comment, and so I will answer; Yes, I use cruise control in town all the time. I live in an island community where the speed limit is 25 pretty much all over the island with only two exceptions. The dang cops will ticket you if you are going 30 in a 25, believe it or not! So I use cruise all the time around the island because it is easy to go over 25 and over 30mph, in the Tacoma! And so what happens or DID happen, on the ONE DAY I used Adaptive Cruise control and QUICKLY found out about Classic Cruise on the truck, was in going around town, I cross an intersection, barely getting out of the intersection, and a block away, there is a car sitting at a stop sign. The dang brakes SLAM on, as though I am about to hit the dang car which is a block away! So I said hell with that, as I didn't want to be replacing brakes because of a stupid adaptive cruise control that I honestly don't think, was tested by anyone at toyota! And in just driving around, and again, I am going about 28mph in a 25 zone on cruise control, but on that one day I did use adaptive, if it thinks I am coming up on a car and get too close, it slams on the brakes; it doesn't just slow me down, it SLAMMED on the brakes! I almost took the dang truck back because it was totally stupid. Thank goodness for classic cruise control....

 

Oh damn, that's even worse than my experience with it. To be fair, New Cruise isn't supposed to be activated below 30mph I believe. Possibly for this very reason.

 

If the vehicle in front of you is at a dead stop and your closing in it as if it were an eminent collision, the truck will apply a very hard amount of braking power. It’s supposed to, the idea is to NOT hit something, and allow you time to react, hence why hitting the brakes yourself still cancels the cruise control.

If your using the adaptive in a 25 mph zone and there is an obstacle or car completely stopped in front of you, you are closing in on it @ 36 feet per second, in a 3 second following gap, the truck will close in 118 feet towards the object.

Perspective, on the freeway, you set the adaptive at 70 and get behind a car doing 65, you're closing @ 7 feet per second. Now you’re only closing 21 feet in the same 3 second gap.

so, yea, the truck will “slam” on the brakes because it’s barreling towards a stationary object at almost 4x the speed and its trying to keep whatever distance you have set on the sensitivity (1,2 or 3 second gap).

It’s called Toyota Safety Sense, not “Toyota Self Drive.” If you want something that is an autonomous and fully integrated system, go buy a Tesla truck.

 

I use it on Highway 1 here in Delaware which has 65 speed limit between Dover & Wilmington. If you've ever driven here, you'll know there are out-of-state drivers from the Tri-Sate area as well as Permanent Party assigned to Dover AFB.

Soooooo, there are a variety of drivers here.

Two-lane divided highway presents lots of challenges including slow drivers that stay in the left lane. Many people either work in Delaware and travel to the next state (MD, PA, NJ, VA) or vice-versa.

Lots of driving habits that must be recognized like how people merge onto the highway...both driver already on the highway and driver approaching the merge.

The "Learning Curve" came quick because anticipating what drivers intend to do/and making a move prior to allows me to monitor the TSS system and test its ability to recognize vehicles directly in front of me.

I've tapped the brakes and manually accelerated to get away from certain conditions and then shift the control upward to "resume" dynamic cruise control (DCC).

If too many instances occur where I'm having to tap the brakes, I'll just cancel the DCC and manually maneuver away from other drivers.

Ed

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Dammit, Bluelinetaco, why'd you have to break out the math and shit?

 

And that's the main reason I prefer CSCC over DCC. There's nothing to learn. I can concentrate on my line and the other traffic and I don't have to spend any cycles also monitoring my truck.

Also, I live south of Boston, so I totally get the driving pattern (chaos) you speak of. Originally from Oklahoma and Florida and... holy crap these people can't drive. It's probably just a function of population density though.

 

I'm new to Toyota's Safety features...have not tried the CSCC to give a comparison.

My wife doesn't even use CC on her 2017 Elantra...I'm the one who does ALL the driving on weekends. But she's a great backseat driver! lol

Chaos pretty much describes the driving here in Delaware. I'm from SoCal/LA so I turn on my "city mode" when I drive in Philly/Baltimore or any high density areas. That's the main reason my wife doesn't drive other than to work and home M-F.

Ed

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CSCC = Constant Speed Cruise Control, i.e. Cruise Classic.

My wife and I are similar there. If we go anywhere at night or on the weekends I'm usually driving. She does use Cruise quite a bit though, and even in 2021 she's driving a stick-shift. She's amazing.

 

Big Time DUH!!!

I just didn't know Regular Cruise Control had an acronym. Hahaha

My wife can't negotiate a standard transmission...but both my daughters can! They learned on a 2000 VW Turbo Beetle...that was fun to drive!

As for my wife, she grew up in Britain where it's costly to get a "Learner's Permit" (L) and trains/buses are preferred method of travel anyway.

She learned to drive automatic in 1996 (Accord) while I was away in Saudi Arabia (PSAB) doing a 3-month rotation. We'd been married 6 years by that time.

Yes, our wives are Amazing in their own special way...

Ed

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Tis’ what I do! Hahaha can argue the math. And I checked it to make sure it was right. Lol

 

I will say this, I do use the CSCC mostly. But for the main reason that I have the KD Tune @TWTaco and the tune is not available in the adaptive cruise mode. The gas mileage is better on the KD tune as well.

However, great example of the usefulness of the adaptive.

As I drove home from LA on i5 last month, the fog was so dense I could barely see a car length ahead of me. The fog lasted for almost 200 miles. By the time I could see anything, I was on top of it. I activated the adaptive cruise and set it at 65. All of a sudden, the truck would begin to slow (NOT SLAM on the brakes) and I knew something was ahead of me even though I couldn’t see it yet. Sure enough within a few seconds there were the tail lights. The truck keep the 3 second gap I had it set at, and continuously adjusted speed to maintain it. When i was “done” doing 45 mph behind the cars that just wouldn’t move, I changed lanes, the truck passed the cars and resumed going at 65. Had it not been for the adaptive cruise, my 6.5 hr drive would have taken even longer and at 0200 hours I was ready to be home.

 

Cruise control does not activate below 25, per the manual.

 

That may be the best argument I've seen for the use of DCC. Well played. I'll still be using CSCC, but I'll have to keep this use case in mind if I run into a similar situation.