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4th Gen Tacoma EV revealed in Japan

Discussion in 'Toyota Trucks & SUVs' started by AbdullaJaafari, Dec 14, 2021.

  1. Dec 14, 2021 at 7:58 PM
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    I'd prefer a PHEV electric taco, but mine's basically a trail rig at this point, with the daily being the Rav4 Prime.

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    Someone with 'one vehicle' who wants a truck? PHEVs are the ticket. Short trips are electric, and no worries about finding charging stations when on longer trips.
     
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    The heat pump. :p

    Man that thing makes a lot of noises. Coming out to a warm car with defrosted windows without burning any gas is nice, though.
     
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    https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

    The tech is coming. I worked on some of this tech several years ago
     
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    Not necessarily. The 1st Gen Tundra AC vs DC, look almost identical at first, the DC front clip, grill, headlights are a little bigger. Think the chassis wider too rather than just lengthened, but will have to double check. Toyota is weird like that. Believe the Sequoia shares the same front clip as the DC.

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    Could be, though I am seeing a link arm for the rear suspension (might be my eyes) which makes sense if the rumors are true of them going to a coil sprung rear. Though a skateboard chassis makes more sense for an EV, unless they plan to eek out every last penny from that conventional chassis by offering ICE, Hybrid, or EV drivetrains.
     
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    Please God, don't let it be an EV only. Hybrid please
     
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    I like PHEVs, but some folks like BEVs. Hopefully both options. Oh and a proper 2kW inverter powered by the traction battery.
     
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    This (CBI) Hilux version looks pretty sweet to me

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    I can’t wait for the guys on this site to do all of that to an EV Tacoma and then endlessly bitch about how short the ramge is now.
     
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    Uses winch for 5 minutes. EV battery dead.
     
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    If you notice theres a gas can on the roof rack. It's there to fuel the generator to charge the ev. Problem solved :D
     
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    Honda generator, right? :rofl:
     
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    Of course :rofl:
     
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    I’m same as you. I got a prime rav4 as well. I’d prefer if this new pickup is a Prime. But it would be nice to also have a bigger fuel tank! 33 gallons would be nice although it would not be marketable. That’s how I’d prefer it though.
     
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    Like anything it is something that needs to be refined. It won't get refined until it is being implemented. Everyone expects things to magically reach this "ready" point before any sort of scaling up. However, that's not how things work.

    First off: people will have to make adjustments. Much like going from horses to internal combustion powered automobiles, the EV isn't going to immediately fit into everyone's lives. People will have to adjust to what works for them. With that will come the evolution of technology. Fact is you don't necessarily need to have a garage to charge these. More charging stations will likely begin popping up at places of employment or places that are conveniently located to places of employment. You'll see them pop up at places where people are expected to stay for a while such as grocery stores, restaurants, and movie theaters. The largest grocery store chain in my area (Meijer) partnered with Tesla several years ago and installed Tesla superchargers at many of their stores and even signed on to test the Tesla semi when it is ready. The town I work in is pretty rural and they installed an EV station several years before what Meijer did. Not to mention I've seen plenty of people with Tesla's that are not parking in garages. Furthermore, people will have to adjust to not having a 100% charge all the time. Especially in weekly commute situations where you won't gain all that range back over night since you're likely only using level 1 charging. Eventually people will add level 2 capabilities to their homes to help this and that's as simple as having a dryer plug installed wherever you plan to park your vehicle to charge.

    The portable battery idea isn't bad and I've thought about that before. However, you begin to introduce variables in that case. You never really know how the battery was treated by previous owners, especially since it isn't theirs. So you never really know what shape the new battery you're receiving is. What's more is ranges will greatly suffer from something that is designed to be replaced so often since it will inevitably be smaller. That should get better with technology evolving and maturing, but will always be a drawback vs permanently mounted systems.

    Quite frankly, EVs suffer the most in road trip situations, but often it isn't that bad.

    The main issue with that is charge times and the fact that Tesla is about the only one concerned with charging infrastructure. I recently watched a video comparing gas to EV using 3 different vehicles. I forget what the gas option was but they used a Tesla and the Mustang Mach E as comparison vehicles. They did a road trip over the course of a couple of days. The shortest time was the gas car with about 12 hours or so per day (if I remember correctly). The next was the Tesla which was only an hour behind. The mustang came in last by several hours. The key difference was the way they "fueled up." The gas car used existing gas station infrastructure while the Tesla got to use Tesla chargers. It is important to note that the Tesla network is set up so you can see exactly how many chargers are available and working. This is important because this was the main reason the mustang finished last each day. The mustang relied on 3rd party chargers and often didn't have that information available. So when they arrived they weren't sure if the chargers would be in use or out of order all together. However, in each case, the EV was much cheaper to charge than the gas car was to fill up.

    Yes, EVs need some work, but that will only continue to come as the technology matures and it can only do that in an economically viable way by evolving as it is becoming more mainstream. Many people don't like them and are only driven by fear of change. But remember: this isn't an overnight process. Automobiles came into the scene in the late 1800's and early 1900's. However, horses were still the primary mode of transportation in the US until around the 1920's-30's. Technology will continue to evolve and it will continue to become more efficient and economically viable and people will also learn to adjust as needed.
     
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    Wait and see. Right now they aren't in production yet. Just concept. Some of things can be changed before they go into production.
     
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    I doubt if they’ll bring back the FJ Cruiser. Though I didn’t care for it, looked doofy and cheap to me. Toyota doesn’t do retro very well. It actually goes against their design philosophy. They want to keep on moving forward and not dwell on the past.
     
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    These concepts weren't unique to the US. The FJ is still sold in other markets.
     
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    Wasnt aware youre a product manager and/or market manager at Toyota.

    Please, do tell..:duh:
     
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    It was an article I read a few years ago why Toyota doesn’t like to do retro. They like to keep their products advancing.

    They tried with the FJ Cruiser, which looked like a luke warm attempt at it. They had a perfect opportunity to compete with the Wrangler and missed the mark. Wouldn’t of been too hard either. Already have a chassis, could of used the 80 series, with a retro body, and updated drive train.
     
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