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I dont know if anyone has tried SOA with the towers. I know Harry and company designed the towers around the SUA setup, which to my knowledge relocates the leaf hanger position to be more outboard. If you run the towers with stock SOA spring perches, not sure how those clearances would work. Im just theorizing though, Harry will have to confirm all of that.

Besides that, you’ll end up cycling a lot more droop with SOA and very little bump. That’s just the limit of SOA on these trucks.

 

This is the double triangulated I did on our wrangler years ago. Once you read up on the geometry enough it’ll all make sense. If I recall my upper links are somewhere around 40% shorter than my lowers. You want a longer lower arm. These ones go all the way to the trans crossmember.

Another cool thing is, you can stretch out your wheel base if you want when you link. On this wrangler I went from 93ish” to 115”. Tires poke out a little beyond the front and rear bumpers. So the approach angle is about as good as it comes.

All this talk makes me want to drag it back out and brush off the dust.

 

This is all incorrect information. The shock towers are designed to allow the axle to bump on the frame with a 14” shock. When you go spring under the axle bumps at least 5” sooner so in theory you could actually run a 16” shock on a SOA setup. There is no point as the 14” shock allows the axle to drop out more than a SOA setup will even allow.

We have also used all of our spring hanger parts with a custom SOA pack Deaver made for us per a customers request and against my advice... I think I’ve said it enough times that SOA is inferior and will never work nearly as good as a SUA kit. Just like I’ve repeatedly said a panhard bar 4link is junk, again this is my opinion based on A LOT of personal experience and I’m sorry if this triggers you.

With that said if you feel a different rear suspension other than a SUA or true 4 link works for you that’s all that matters. One thing I will always be is straight up with regards to my opinion, by no means am I trying to offend anyone I’m just sharing my perspective.

 

SUA guys are such haters.....

 

Cool yeah, I’m not offended. I was reading about leaf springs at 3am while I was at work. Perhaps the wording in my post wasn’t clear. I’ve edited it to better reflect my thought process. Which, like I said in the original post, was just a theory.

As for the rest of that rant, I think you’re confusing me with someone else…. Because I haven’t even been involved in this link discussion?

 

I wasn’t referring to you at all, I was just venting. I guess I just have to laugh it off next time.

 

Im just trying to inform people there is a better way

 

no please keep venting. The fact that you are as active as you are on here is quite refreshing compared to a lot of the competition that just lurks in the background and never posts, responds or corrects misinformation.

 

I think people will always take advice lightly from others. Human nature we always defend our own thoughts as “better.” When in reality everyone just has to do what they think is best for them and later learn they were wrong. I think it’s just the cycle of life. Unfortunately people don’t like to listen to people who know a lot more than them. Again I think it’s just human nature.

 

I feel as if you all were lurking in a conversation I had elsewhere this morning regarding a separate topic. Lots of wisdom in here today. Must be the new year's jitters.

 

Thanks for the info!
I think my mind has leaned towards SOA since I’m more into the rock crawling side of things and that’s like the go-to-thing. You always see old Jeeps, etc, hop on the SOA train. Realistically, I know nothing about suspension lol. Other than the fact that you lose some ground clearance from SUA. I know it’s been covered here before, I definitely need to look more into SUA.

 

The old yj’s and what not go spring over for lift more than anything. SUA would do really well crawling considering it’s going to keep the truck lower. And realistically if you modify your driving habits and allow the tire to carry the spring over rocks you shouldn’t ever have a problem.

 

Different strokes for different folks. We need more LT pics Harry!!!

 

aaaaahhhhhh… interesting. Man, this really gets me thinking about future plans then. Full archive seemed easypeasy. I’m not gonna lie, I’m totally a sheep. Figure SOA was better due to friends and most 3rd Gen owners going SOA. Truthfully, I don’t know shit gotta do some deep reading now.

 

Synchronicity event?

 

Honestly I think people stay soa for 2 reasons' 1.) it's easy 2.) It meets their expectations or is close enough to not want to mess with it further. Soa is easy, everything except a shock upgrade is bolt on. You can do HH's and Deavers in the garage with a couple buddies and case of beer. You do not have to do a shock upgrade with soa. You can use your existing shocks and still notice a benefit over the stock leafs. Changing shock towers and adding longer shocks can improve travel and droop, so there still is an upgrade path with soa. Once you get to the point of wanting more than what a stock location spring can offer then you start looking into things like a 63 swap, sua or links. Once you have made the commitment to upgrade from a stock location spring you are taking on a bigger project. JD's sua is nearly bolt on, all you really have to fab/weld are the shock towers and axle mounts. 63's you are welding on new front and rear mounts and shock stuff. Links require math and shit which is clearly above most Tacoma owners pay grade. Think about what you really want out of the truck and plan out your upgrade path, there are only a couple people on here who will openly look down on you no matter what you decide.

 

Still lots to be desired with the SOA. Look at it this way, once you lift the majority of your travel is uptravel in the front. The rear is mostly down travel. In my honest opinion, this creates an unbalance all the way around the truck. It just doesn't pair very well. Again, in my opinion. I've gone from stock with blocks, to dakars to hammer hangers, shock relocate and deavers. I'm still not happy with the way the truck feels. I've spent more money trying to make it right than the entire JD setup costs including free bleeds. I've also wasted countless hours on a setup that was never going to work for me personally.

 

Yes but you actually use your truck offroad. So many of these trucks (raises hand) see so little offroad use that a simple soa setup does just fine for 99% of the driving. If I did more days in the dunes I would have a sua setup on the truck but I can't justify it yet.

 

I'm personally one that just hates spending money more than once lol.

 

I am all about the buy once, cry once mantra but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way. The good news is if you do buy sua setup you should be able to recover 90% of the cost of your current components. The used parts market is pretty nutty right now with so many shortages.