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(finally fixed) Crank, crank, Craaaaank, won't start thread...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by FishaRnekEd, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:03 AM
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    Properly operating Fuel Injectors only have two positions Fully open or fully closed.
     
  2. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:19 AM
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    Yes, what i meant was open longer than they should be. Or, what else would cause a rich condition? (Usually too lean is the danger)
    Not that any of this is my problem. But it could be...
     
  3. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:22 AM
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    It is possible you have an injector getting stuck partially open. That is not something that comes and goes. Usually if it get stuck it is just stuck and will remain that way.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:26 AM
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    Tnshooter

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    Look at this
    https://youtube.com/shorts/6zvaSW3toM0?feature=share

    EDIT- she still won't start, but now my immobilizer light is actually blinking.
    It blinks while the key is Not in the ignition And it blinks while the starter Is cranking.
    (I'm not sure when it is/isn't supposed to be blinking).
     
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  5. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:31 AM
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    Bad fuel/air mix *should set off an obd code...
     
  6. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:38 AM
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  7. Jan 15, 2022 at 5:54 AM
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    Update, since this is definitely seeming like an imobilizer issue, go ahead and laugh your ass off at me... I'm an idiot

    Let's see what the inside of my janky aftermarket key looks like

    KIMG4850.jpg
    KIMG4851.jpg
     
  8. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:01 AM
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    I’m pretty sure it is supposed to stop blinking when the key is in the ignition.
    I’ll be headed out the door here, in about 20 mins. I will check to see when mine goes off.

    I know it doesn’t blink when cranking for sure.
     
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  9. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:03 AM
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    BTW, as I’m sure you know, that isn’t an OEM key.

    Do you have a different key to try?
     
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  10. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:06 AM
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    That key is worn out, :eek: I'm suprised it still even unlocks the lock cylinder.

    Mine stops as soon as the key is inserted, you may have to find someone with a scanner that can talk to the imobilizer module.
     
  11. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:10 AM
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    Don't bother. I think it's fixed now
     
  12. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:12 AM
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    The key unlocks the doors and ignition because the tumblers are equally worn out with the key
     
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  13. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:13 AM
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    Update for you OP

    Mine WILL continue to flash with the key in the ignition in the OFF position.

    It STOPS flashing when in the ACC or ON position.
     
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  14. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:15 AM
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    Okay here we go she might be fixed finally ‍♀️.

    Years ago when I first got the truck it was having some funny electrical issues doing all kinds of random shit I tore the dash apart and found that the previous owner had wired in all kinds of bullshit probably remote starter stereo crap possibly their own security system.

    Back then I put all the wires back together tape them and secured them didn't have any weird problems anymore. I also never had my immobilizer light come on I didn't even notice it and I assumed this thing just didn't have that security system.

    It appears now that the security system was inactive for some reason somehow turned off it may have turned back on a few weeks ago when I had the battery disconnected for a long time.

    That in combination with my shitty key might be what was giving me the intermittent no fuel issue. I just changed the battery out in the key and tighten up the spring inside that was holding it it was jiggly and I never noticed.

    I just did a hotwire reset on the obd port this morning and the security light came on, which had never come on before. That's when i checked the battery in the key.
     
  15. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:16 AM
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    Looks like they might have changed the way it works in later years. See my post above. ???
     
  16. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:21 AM
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    I think I'd still get another key made and programmed so you have a backup to try if it quits again.

    That's weird I wonder how that's supposed to work. Every immobilizer key I've ever seen on any vehicle is powered by the coil on the lock cylinder when it reads the key, none have their own battery for that part.
     
  17. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:23 AM
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    Look at my post #34

    There was probably a weird issue with the imobilizer and it was never working until i had the battery off of the truck for several hours (used it to get a guys boat running).

    Look at the picture of my shitty key

    That must have done a soft reset on the computer system. Then when i did a hotwire reset, the imobilizer started to fully function.
     
  18. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:24 AM
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    You said your unlock warning switch no longer works so it doesn't know you inserted a key untill you turn the ignition on.
     
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  19. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:25 AM
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    LMFAO, now i need to fix my starter. (It's beginning to screach) i did just put two years worth of cranking on it, in a week.
     
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  20. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:27 AM
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    My
    My flashing light works now exactly as tnshooter describes!
     
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