2020 TRD PRO M/T

Correct, from what I've been able to tell not a single M/T got the button. If Toyota decides to add that feature in a future model I'll be the first one in line to trade in my 2020. As far as that guy, eh, just because you have it shouldn't mean you have to use it. I thought most vehicles with Push to Start still have a regular ignition as a failover option. I know my Mazda did and I had to use it a few times when my fob battery died.

 

Welcome. You've come to the right place.
Regarding the the manual transmission.
It takes a long time to get used to.
There are mods you can do as others will mention but straight OEM this transmission and tuning makes it really hard to learn. And I've driven manual for 20 years.
I wouldn't change it for an auto though. This truck is fun to drive and always has been even 6 years later. Give it time!

Enjoy. Nice truck you guys got.

 

The key works in conjunction with the Clutch Start Cancel Switch, you are able to crank the starter while in gear riding yourself out of a tricky situation.

 

That's not at all what we're talking about. We're talking about the keyless-start button on the dash that only the Automatics got.

 

Right, l was explaining why the MT get a key instead of push button start.

 

The Tacoma does not have a key back up. You either have a Smart key system or you have an Ignition key.

 

Ok, now I get where you were heading with that. That doesn't explain why a M/T can't have keyless start though. A lot of manuals have keyless start. You jump in, engage the clutch, hit the button, and go.

 

wow, weird gets weirder. Why TF wouldn't they include an ignition backup? For my last car, if your fob battery died you just popped the key out of the fob, pull the cover off the ignition, stick it in, twist, and go.

 

Many manual equipped vehicles do indeed have it but none of them have the Clutch Start Cancel either. You can control the amount of time you are holding the key while in gear to move the truck.

 

If that's the real reason... that's a weak reason. Whether you hit the clutch or hit the clutch cancel it's effectively the same thing, so your method of hitting start shouldn't be decided by your method of hitting clutch safety switch.

That said. I'm pretty sure I'm contributing to the derailment of this thread.

 

This is correct, Push-to-start A/T Tacoma does Not have a backup key ignition.
If battery dies, you hold the key FOB very close to the Start Button, and push the button (per manual).
Honda S2000 has a push Start button and they are all manual, so it is definitely feasible for M/T to get a button to start.

 

No you are completely misunderstanding the purpose of that switch. That switch allows you to move the truck while it's in gear using the starter motor.

 

The clutch cancel is used to drive the truck in 4low using the starter not the engine. With a button it is a timed device used to start the engine. Is it possible to have a separate system with a push button start... sure. I think Toyota stayed with the key for simplicity.

 

I know exactly what it's for. I've watched videos demonstrating exactly what it's for. It's still a weak reason to not offer a keyless start button.

 

I might be able to believe that one more than the clutch-cancel. I could see Toyota not wanting to waste money adapting their keyless start system to the three-pedal truck since far fewer of them are going to be sold, and a lot of the people that want a third pedal are also the ones that are die-hard keyed ignition fans. That would actually make a bit of sense. I still hate it though, and I'm disappointed in Toyota for it. Even if it wasn't an option from the factory it would be nice to have a path to install it after the fact without cutting the wires to the ignition.

 

Think of how disappointed you will be when they do away with the MT all together... that will be a sad day in automotive history.

 

My advice...Always ask your dad for his permission to drive his truck.

 

I use both. My first MT I used only the handbrake when parked. Until one day someone asked me "what if your handbrake fails?" After that I became a belt and suspenders guy.

There's a video somewhere on the internet of a kid getting in his dad's mustang and turning the key (or pushing the start button?) without pushing the clutch and it drives straight into the garage door because it was in gear.

 

My answer to the same question would be "My car will roll." I think we're both belt and suspenders guys, but in different ways. I leave mine out of gear because I might not remember to wiggle the stick after I start to confirm it's in neutral, and the first thing I do after I start is release the clutch. If it's never parked in gear (except when the kid at the dealership is parking my truck after a service) then I don't really have a chance at dumping the clutch before oil even starts moving.

Both methods are totally valid though, and it's good to learn why people do things in ways I don't do them.

 

Found the video:


He might have just dumped the clutch after starting, instead of starting without depressing the clutch