Manual Transmission with regard to resale value - seeking opinions.

Your inability to read is astounding... and your dead wrong. I never said it's special order, but if you think it doesn't require extra training to build a truck with a manual you are clearly not, um at all aware of anything...

Have fun. With your aftermarket remote start when your truck ends up in your house. Toyota is safely first.. will never offer that... and no.. modern manuals still use a key. Lmao were you confusing clicky door locks with start truck lol

Go look up our gear box. It's almost identical... they had to step it down a bit for your smaller motor

 

Who can't read now? Sure it does require a bit extra training, that's why the shops that build the transmissions have two different assembly lines. You don't have to retool the Toyota factory to mount a manual transmission on a truck. Which is exactly what you said.

Again, you don't leave it in first gear and if you wire it right it won't start in first. Plus your parking brake is a thing... NHSTA requirements are the brakes are stronger than engines so if your parking brake is well serviced and your truck tries to start off in first without the clutch pushed in, it's not going anywhere. Genius.

Yes a key... Attached to a fob. Nicely done there, Ray Charles

 

I figure the MT is similar to having the 4cyl. You may have to wait a few days longer for a sale, but with no reduction in price. I waited a long time for a 5spd 4 cylinder to show up. Like you, I think there is a premium on a manual transmission truck. Toyota makes one of the only ones available.

 

I recently sold my manual trans Tacoma and made a pretty penny ….. apparently people will travel very far for a prestige MT fully equipped Tacoma …. And mine had remote start

 

Yup right now it's down to the Taco and the Gladiator.

5sp 2.7L is a rare bird.... Tried to get one back in 2016, no dice. And dealers near me weren't willing to order or trade for one.

 

Lol it's not a fob it's keyless entry. I'm not talking about the transmission builders. I'm taking about the installers on the line in Mexico. Ki zen manufacturing requires cross training in all parts of your autobuilding process. So all the employees at the in that plant around that process have to take specialized side training on the side process that nets 5% of sales.. dude. Think beyond the actual truck

The physical factory had to have separate convey belts, the storage company had to keep em separate, a separate company negotiated a lower volume product, separate shipping from separate wear houses ect ect... I do this for a living.. its farrr more complicated then you think

It's exactly why we have like 4 models and 2 engines now to pick from. When I was young Ford or Chevy had 5 or 6 models with 4 or 6 engines in rotation at any time.. streamlining. And at 5% of market. Manuals sadly are no longer "stream line"

They clog the manufacturing plant I'm positive. But alteast Toyota still builds em

My dad use to tell a story about walking into a Chevy dealer and ordering a Corvette sting ray. That was 1970s, he ordered it and about 3 weeks later he got a perfectly ordered 454 big block with Ttops in burnt orange (no solar octane jokes)

In 2022 sadly toyota can't do that

 

I remember going onto dealer lots when any truck with an auto was a rarity, especially a Taco. I also remember homophobic comments being directed towards those who chose a automatic truck. Times have changed.

 

You are 100% my wife has modified the homophobic bashing.. she now shames my wyoming family because "big strong cowboy's can't drive a manual " which inevitably leads to my family raw hiding my truck to death! Lol


Love all manual owners!

But it's true.. even in places like wyoming.. I'm teaching adult men to drive a toyota tacoma manual... its not a myth. Less then 5% of drives can do it. So let's stick and clutch together

 

Don’t buy a vehicle based off resale value. Whoever buys your ride in 10 years is going to low ball you anyways so it’s 10 years wasted speculating, 10 years of having to row your own gears with no noticeable gain at the end.

the manual is going to only intrigue a portion of enthusiasts. A manual is not ideal for off road. Ever tried to drive up a rock modulating your clutch, throttle, steering, and watching your clearance?

You will only get your speculated price if you find someone who wants a manual, and they’ll still low ball you because that’s how it is.

If you keep it low miles, garaged, stock, it might go for a few bucks extra. But not because it’s a manual. If you intend to drive it any extra resale is out the door.

last year I sold a 48k mile 08 FJ Cruiser 6 speed manual for the same price as an auto. $28,000. It was harder to sell due to it being a manual. Everybody wanted an automatic.

 

No one can order anything they want anymore. It's not just Toyota, it's 2022.

But I guess you know more than the number one car seller in the world. I'll defer to you for all of my future Toyota related questions. Lol.

 

Bro I'll cheers you any day.. I only wanted to point out how cool history is. My grandpa gave me an old Ford model T. It's a manual. And for all those assholes that say 'toyota manuals have a long throw" try a model T or a 1975 Ford f150 work truck...

I only post sick trucks because people here want them. My dealer in Colorado as of Sunday shut off out of state buyers because I was helping all you buy out all their inventory at msrp and drive them out of Colorado. I was simply finding the best trucks and posting them.. so apparently I'm an asshole on both sides


Fyi.. I just last week got offered 22k for my old 07 sport. Granted it's not perfect. But it's worth more to me then 22k

 

This was my experience. I got a 2019 MGM OR MT in March of 2019. My dealer contacted me in November of 2020 and asked if I would be interested in trading it in. This salesman has sold us Toyotas before and sold me the 2019. After talking to him, I traded it for a 2021 MGM OR automatic for basically even money except for sales tax. He had a buyer who absolutely wanted a MT and paid top dollar.

While I really enjoyed the MT, my wife could not drive it as she is handicapped in her knees and I wanted her to enjoy the truck also. I'd say you'd not loose money on it.

 

Model T's are the Tits McGee, we've got 3 of them in the family. They drive like no other too

 

Do all three run? Fuck bro... nice collection. We have the farm version for changing out 4 tractor

 

An article in US News and World Report a while back stated only 18% of American drivers could operate a manual trans, that % has probably dropped dramatically by now.
You are seeing a slight rise in manual trans vehicle prices recently as M/T fans are seeking them out as seeing the writing on the wall that they are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

5-10 years from now few will even remember the manual trans, and you will hardly be able to give one away. There may still be limited interest amount die-hard manual sportscar holdouts.
Most all sportscar manufacturers have abandoned manuals. Corvette was one of the last holdouts eliminating manuals after the 2019 C7.

Unfortunate in my opinion, as I've always been a manual fan. Will hold on to my '96 Tacoma 5-speed forever.

 

One possibly nobody is mentioning is EV conversion. Much more doable with a MT. That’s my 10 year plan. Not like the engine is to die for really, at least not on stock tune. I might even be tempted to do it sooner. We will see how batteries go and what the 4th Gen is like.

I think an electric motor under the hood and batteries under the bed would make quite a nice 4wd vehicle.

 

My experience recently has been that it increases resale value, or at least buyer interest/speed of sale, regardless of what KBB or others say. Sure, the buyer pool is smaller but enthusiasts come out of the woodwork for them.

 

They were my great-grandpa's, and he was an active member of the Missouri Springfield model T Ford club, one of the largest in the country. And I should correct it, one is a model A, the other two are manual model t's. With the weird ass transmission pedal and the spark adjuster on the column and everything else that comes with.

All of them are damn near showroom condition and very drivable. Pretty sure my uncle takes the model A to church when the weather is nice.

 

You can count me as a “die hard holdout” and before trolls begin knocking that statement, just want to say, I do not give a flying f**k what you think. I enjoy driving a manual and that’s that.

 

Manuals will die for 3 reasons;
1-electric vehicles do not require a multi gear transmission
2-Auto tranny trucks usually have a higher tow rating due to torque multiplication off idle (especially in gasoline powered trucks)
3-the way corporate average fuel economy and noise regulations are calculated.
I'll continue to drive them until I can't, however. It's not very often you hear of a manual transmission crapping out (yes, I know it happens.)
As an aside, it is interesting that Toyota put the redeveloped R156 5 speed in the 4 cylinder for a 2 or 3 year time span. Now that's a chicken tooth!