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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by HomerTaco, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. Feb 2, 2022 at 6:54 PM
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    maybe it was just "too much, too soon" previously when they tried to diversify and now with better manufacturing tech, more computerization/automation, more licensing agreements all the custom parts are more feasible on the financial side of things.
    and what about the "classic" sets in the last few years? those are more of the creative free build mentality. yeah, its just a small niche in the overall lego world but they haven't completely lost touch with their roots

    you'll soon learn we have a little bit of everything here on TW! Welcome!
     
  2. Feb 2, 2022 at 7:21 PM
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    Licenses also helped drag them out of near bankruptcy. It's an interesting case to look into, no reason for me to rehash it here.

    The Creator line is an odd/bittersweet thing to me. Lego had four main lines going back to the 80s: town, pirates, castle, and space. Town has become the City line, and the other three have fallen out of regular production only to have singular releases as Creator 3-in-1 sets. Lego has confirmed this as the plan moving forward. The majority of their production now focuses on licensed media/pop-culture themes rather than in-house ideas, with the primary exception being Ninjago.

    Every set also used to come with alternate build ideas on the packaging and instructions. Technic sets used to have additional instructions for alternate B-models. These were meant to inspire kids to be creative with the bricks they have and come up with their own creations. These have now been abandoned for a deeper focus on the set model itself. There are the Creator brick boxes that have small build ideas for the included bricks, but these sets are a very small fraction of Lego's overall catalog. The focus now is on collecting all of the cool things from your favorite franchise rather than individual creativity. Again, Lego as a company have basically confirmed that the Creator line is the dumping ground for "old Lego" concepts, for lack of better terms.

    I'm even seeing this shift in my local LUG. The focus used to be on MOC building and creative ideas, but Lin recent years has almost completely switched to collecting the latest and greatest sets. Said shift in focus coincided with a growth in the club and change in leadership and membership. More people just want to build sets, with MOC builders sort of being sidelined. (And then we're prodded whenever the club needs something to display or make them look good...)

    Yes, set designs have become significantly more detailed and complex even in the smaller price ranges. No, the old sets weren't necessarily better and indeed were similar in design and parts count. Yes, I am definitely approaching this essay from a nostalgic perspective. I've been a fan of Lego for over three decades, and things change with time. I'm not saying it's necessarily all a bad thing - I'm glad Lego didn't run themselves completely into bankruptcy. It's just different. A company that built itself on creativity after the advent of the Lego brick seems to have now reduced themselves to churning out an ever growing mountain of collectibles, and they're succeeding for it.

    There's my ham-fisted, alcohol-fueled rambling. Just something I've been thinking about lately.
     
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  3. Feb 2, 2022 at 7:39 PM
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    I was a Pirate line collector as a kid. Always wanted the large ships but the parents never had the money for the Black Seas Barracuda or the Imperial Flagship. You’re spot on about the alternative B models on the instructions. I miss that. The pride of my childhood collection and one I’ll probably buy soon for nostalgia’s sake was Forbidden Island (6270).
     
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    Oh man, I think we just became friends...

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    And I still enjoy building ships

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  5. Feb 2, 2022 at 7:54 PM
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    SwampYota Strange things are afoot at the Circle K

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    Holy shit! :eek::bowdown:

    Edit: I see a Forbidden Island in there, nice!
     
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    Black Seas Barracuda is what started this whole obsession so many years ago. Finally managed to add Skull's Eye Schooner and Caribbean Clipper to the fleet in 2020

    Yeah, Forbidden Island was also a childhood favorite. You have good taste, sir.
     
  7. Feb 3, 2022 at 3:11 AM
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    heck, yeah
    i have all the SW Lego games since they came out.
    can't wait for the Skywalker saga....a lot of rehashing all the same stuff, but they put spins on them each time
     
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    (Edit- fix typo and grammar as I would want folks to think they’re made by Sear87 :thumbsup:)
     
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    Ha, got me there!
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    That is incredible!

    I visited the Tuskegee Airman National Historic Park in 2019 and if you've never been but have any interest in WWII and that part of American history it's a must visit. I'm afraid that price is a little too rich for me though.
     
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    Yeah, Brickmania pricing has long been questioned but they make some valid points:
    • They buy their LEGO parts retail
    • Time to design and test out their models
    • Packaging
    • Advertising

    If you haven’t checked them out yet, their Digital Instructions are terrific. You get the Instructions and parts list for uploading to your LEGO parts source.

    They’ve been releasing more and more instructions so it’s good to see what’s out there already.
     
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    all good points.
    i'm always amazed at the MOCs that I see posted on IG and your stuff too. i have one of the classic sets and i tinker with it every once in a while but usually give up because A) i dont have enough parts to do whatever i'm trying to make and B) just cant figure out how to make the thing i want to make. i downloaded studio too but gave up on that because i spent forever looking up parts because i didn't know what category they'd be in. maybe if i'd been more into lego as a kid and have access to an unlimited supply of parts i'd do more free building stuff.
    i totally agree that the licensing is getting out of hand. the star wars stuff is cool but not really what i want to collect/build. if i go to target/walmart/barnes and noble thats half of the lego aisle! and now harry potter and marvel and super mario and disney are taking over the other half. i was kinda wondering how much longer the super mario line will last. the last couple weeks before christmas that was the only thing left on the shelves in the lego aisle. no one was buying it.
    i've tried to avoid most of the branded sets. yeah, i have the fender, flintstones, shuttle, apollo and sat v. those 5 sets probably account for 2/3 of the money I've spent too. everything else i have is RVs/campers/cabins, smaller 3 in 1 sets, lots of the polybag stuff and a few more ideas sets. i like the smaller models and 3 in 1 because you can do so much with so few parts.
     
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    Nothing wrong with that approach at all! Don't stop collecting sets if that's what you enjoy - just look at my collection. Don't get discouraged when trying to build your own stuff (I could learn from my own advice...) Next time you do, post pics! Either way, not everyone enjoys building MOCs or has a large collection. Honestly, I find it more difficult to build small MOCs with limited parts - it's a skill I need to practice.

    This aside, it just feels like Lego as a company has lost sight of a formerly core ethos of theirs. Look up scans of old catalogs from the 80s and 90s. Backgrounds were photos of elaborate displays of the sets available, and sometimes non-set builds. Lego had released a series of idea books (https://brickset.com/library/ideasbooks) over the years - I have #260 from 1990 - with the same concept: what can you come up with using your bricks? Lego as a company used to promote and encourage creativity beyond the set contained within the box.

    I have more thoughts and conflicts that I've tried typing with little success. I could probably go on for hours, but there's no need and most people probably wouldn't read it anyway. I'll always love Lego bricks, and I'm glad the company is doing well and people still have fun with it. Things have just taken a turn that I'm not so thrilled about for more reasons than what was already stated, and I'll probably be buying fewer sets as a result. Not that my wallet minds...
     
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    I was attempting to build a minifig scale outhouse for Camp Weesa :laugh: I mean I have all of the campers and the cabins and tents and a load of trees...all that's missing from camp was an outhouse!
    Ideally I'd use the 1x4 tiles with the wood plank print on them.
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