Alignment Issues - Upper Control Arm Required?

I received this alignment chart from Toyota. They said they couldn't get it aligned no matter how hard they tried. Can I just purchase different cam bolts to fix this or will I need to buy these SPC upper control arms? Side note truck history which might cause some of the issues:

6" Fabtech lift with 35's
Currently needs new rear shocks (will replace before next alignment)
Upper ball joints and tie rods both are worn but not broken (will replace before next alignment)

 

Yep, SPC's and done.

 

Yep. SPCs will give you the most adjustability.

Mare sure all 4 lower alignment cams aren’t frozen too.

Replace all the worn out stuff and get it aligned again.

 

Is the lift new? I ask since you mentioned how worn out some parts are. Or have you been running it awhile? If so how long and did it align before?

With a drop bracket lift your numbers shouldn’t be that bad unless there are other issues. They work by moving your pivots down maintaining your factory geometry (or at least they’re supposed to) so I would do alittle investigating before throwing SPCs on. They might be a bandaid for a bigger issue.

 

The truck has been lifted for roughly 13 years. Everything seemed fine until after I got it back from Toyota. They did the rear leaf spring recall on it which they said the alignment was apart of the recall. Since around then my tires have been wearing at a semi-drastic slant. I had also removed my sway bar a few months back prior to taking it to Toyota so I am not sure if that has any affect on it. I spoke to Fabtech earlier and they did say that I should be able to align my truck to factory specs with their 6" kit. I also have the Fabtech coilovers which were cranked up roughly another 3/4"-1" to reduce the common tire/frame rub. The Fabtech technician mentioned that my coilover springs may be worn. I am not sure how that would be the case if the front end is still sitting up higher than the rear as it has been for 13 years.

 

Ah okay so you did change something by cranking the coilovers up to increase lift. That makes much more sense than it just suddenly not aligning properly.

That being the case SPC UCAs should be a good fix to maintain the lift you have. The other cheaper option would be crank the coilovers back down to where they were previously.

 

Unfortunately, the coilovers were cranked up and aligned prior to all of this as I had a tire wear issue after cranking them up before (2009). Since this is my dedicated offroad vehicle I think I will go the SPC UCA route if it will for sure fix the issue. It seems like I am going to waste a lot of labor hours trying to find the actual issue. Thanks for all of the input everyone.

 

With a 6” lift, definitely UCA’s. Have that alignment shop get around +3 caster

 

Yup, the SPC UCA's will arrive tomorrow. Any particular reason that you suggest +3 caster? I do not really know the advantages/disadvantages of adjusting caster.

 

anything more than a 2.5" lift will need upper control arms.

 

6" lift alignments usually turn out fine for me with no arms.

I would say the lower eccentrics are seized, and thats what's causing the issue.

Did they quote new lower control arms?

 

Yes, I agree with you that 6" lifts typically align without UCA's as that is why they provide an aftermarket knuckle to create the same geometry (at least thats what the Fabtech Technician stated). Nothing is seized as I have everything disassembled right now. I most likely slightly tweaked either the factory UCA or LCA or both. I have had a few hard hits when I have been off-roading. But since the alignment issues can be resolved within spec from the SPC UCA, I just decided to go that route for now. I also have some other components that need to be replaced so everything is adding up fast. I think I will most likely replace the LCA's with stronger aftermarket ones in the future. Any suggestions on good offroad LCA's? (not long travel)

 

I'd take it back to the Toyota dealer that caused the issue when the aligned it with the recall.
6" Fabtech should NOT be an issue.
I had the same set up.

 

I have a 3” lift with my coilovers. I have +3.1 driver/+2.6 pass. This results in a smoother ride

 

Installed Lift using SPC UCA, Toytec 2.0 Boss Aluminum coil overs, and replaced Steering rack, tie rods and lower ball joint with OEM. Before and after.

 

^ caster should be way higher than that with SPCs

 

Where do you recommend/suggest the caster be set at?

 

Closer to 4*.