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I could give 2 shits about what filter goes on. As long as you change your oil and filter regular, you are ahead of the game.

 

One of the fancy " no spill " filters.

 

Thx Kirk

 

I agree to a point, any other major brand not made by Fram filter is probably fine.

Fram however has a long history of using poorly designed and manufactured anti-drainback valves. I have personal experience having them cause engines that mount the filter upside down or sideways like a Dodge slant six or 2.2/2.5, Ford 300 or Kohler Magnum knock when starting up cold.

This was a know issue for many years, a simple case of the manufacturer selling a shoddy product with great advertising and brand recognition.

If a cheap consumer purchased a K-mart brand oil filter and it was poorly made part of the shame goes on them, if they however purchased a well know national brand ("a quality brand" vs a no name) the shame goes on the misleading manufacturer.

Just like the VW diesel mess a few years ago this was a boardroom level decision, not sloppy work done by the hourly people.
I don't know nor care if they have improved, they won't get any support from me.

Steps off personal soapbox...

 

To save $20-30 I wouldn't mind cleaning up a bit of spillage...

 

borderline over cooked for me but glad to see you are eating something...

man those jacks were sketchy at best...either kicked out or randomely dropped

 

I installed this one this morning, but I'll definitely be checking some more. Thx guys. We had a Toyota Sienna that had to have the top end rebuilt under warranty because of the upside down oil filter.

 

I’m no fram fan myself but just as a reference

 

Far to many might not be aware of the poor Fram drain back valve i know for a fact they paid for quite a few engines I was involved with in my misguided youth.

Just go to prove what a Large advertisement Budget can do

 

I'm aware of that chapter in their history.

That silicone rubber flap/ check valve part is made of completely different material from years ago.

You guys need to stop hanging onto the past .

As for small engines, the drain back issue is a non issue.

The oil pump is so close to the filter, it makes no difference.

 

I knda like the past my Body still worked and injuries healed in a few days.

 

Hanging on to the past, perhaps... There is a matter of integrity here.

As I said, that wasn't an isolated issue, it came from the boardroom and went on for years, a corporate decision to produce junk -- "fool me once..." my mother would say.

On the other hand, with all the WIX filters I have installed they haven't purposely sold me a shoddy design yet so I'm content to spend my money with someone who has earned my trust.

Clarification: I'm not stating that WIX is the best filter available at any cost.
I'm stating that they offer trustworthy quality, are easily obtainable and are sold at a fair price.

 

Morning all have a great Sunday

 

Good Sunday morning friends

 

good morning boys and girls

 

Windy AF here!

I'm waiting for the generator to kick on...

 

Supposed to be windy here tomorrow.

 

i like wix

 

Wait, does that take one of those stupid proprietary filters like this?

$51 John Deere Easy Change 30-Second Oil Change System

https://www.amazon.com/John-Deere-C...646578256&sprefix=john+deere+oi,aps,99&sr=8-5

If so, you can remove that whole system and install the oil filter nipple and use a filter with a 3/4-16 thread and about 3" round diameter gasket.

$11 Briggs & Stratton 690954 Oil Filter Nipple Replaces 231573, 231603, 690954

https://www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-690954-Filter-Replaces/dp/B002WNW1KU

 

Yeah, that's the filter for it. Thx for the info , I may decide to try that on my next change.