E85??

E85 is a loser all the way around. Engine performance gains? You gotta be kidding! Not only that, the environmental benefits associated with producing E85 are offset by the problems. It does indeed burn a little cleaner, and supposedly a "green" fuel... but those advantages aren't real because of the emissions of the diesel used in the tractors to grow and harvest the corn. The only reason we have ethanol in our fuel is because of political pressure from the corn growing States. It sure isn't because of common sense. Why would we grow fuel on land where we should be growing food?

 

I agree on all except "is a loser all the way around". You clearly do not have boost. When boosted, E85 is awesome. There are a lot of government subsidized big corporate greed BS out there in so many things- finally one of those things directly affects me in a good way, I can not only zero out timing retard on my TRD S/C, but advance it- and the exhaust smells like french fries sometimes.

Do they spend gallons upon gallons of fuel and water to make just one gallon of E85? Should E85 cost way more if all things were equal? Yep and yep, but my E85 tune and butt dyno are loving E85, so its not a complete fail haha. There is so much fraud, waste and abuse of so many government systems, this is car tuners return on some of it.

 

If you are interested in doing the environment a favor, like E85 was intended to do, buy an electric car.

 

That doesn't work either. Electricity is produced by burning coal and bad for environment.

 

Performance gains can be insane on a boosted application. My car was maxed on 91 octane at 18psi making 300whp. On the same car and same turbo with only e85 and supporting mods it can run 30+psi and make over 400whp. Pretty good for just switching fuel.

 

https://eflexfuel.com/
Just leaving this here.

 

Old post but gonna bump for no reason.. I pump 17gal of gas and 2 or 3 gal of e 85 all the time. Trucks happy. Throttle response is great. No issues been doin it for years.. I always have extra e85 at the shop because I do fuel pump upgrades for e85 conversions for subies.

 

But why?

 

Hardly see e85 for sale anymore and it seems the newer cars are not e85 compatible. In 2008 I had a 2008 F150. I tried e85 several times and the drop in gas mileage was greater than the drop in fuel price.

 

I'll leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-yDKeya4SU

Only touches on the usage, not the energy and resource usage to produce ethanol. Then there's the whole government subsidy just to make ethanol palatable to the consumer cost-wise (in both propping up corn prices to farmers and government payments to keep the cost of ethanol to the consumer down). What a racket!

 

E85 was awesome in my GTI/APR Stage 2. It will never go in the Taco tho

 

^ Agree. Ran a mix of 91 and E51, that’s what the pumps have here, in my Audi S4 with a supercharged V6 and lots of APR mods and dual over drive pulleys. Helped keep the power up with all the heat from the supercharger.

NA Tacoma, no reason to.

 

Anyone notice our trucks now say no E20 on the fuel cap because they’re pushing E15?

 

as opposed to climate change from burning fossil fuels which is awesome for humans and the environment

 

I'm tuned to 91 or higher, can I use e85 on my 3rd gen?
P.s. from what I've read so far I understand that there's a performance loss but e85 is half price of 91 here