Tire damage opinion

Uh, no, it couldn't be half-way. Take a look at this picture. If it were half-way, you would see the body cords and a different layer of rubber. That section of rubber is cosmetic, not structural.



Tires are a sandwich. The ply you see with the #5 is what gives the tire the strength. This is essentially the "rebar". That along with the steel belting with the #7 combine to keep the tire shape and allow it to hold air. This is all encased in rubber which is various compounds to resist abrasion, add flexibility, and more importantly keep the air inside.

 

I am hopeful your ego will sustain this blow of the OP playing it safe and not heading your unfounded opinion which you are entitled to. Please understand that though you are entitled to have an opinion others are not required to take it. Though you claim this portion is "cosmetic" I am sure a "tire professional" might argue this point. Perhaps physics could also. You do not know the extent of the impact, depth or intrusion of said tire. Therefore you can guess it is safe but one really never knows. Inherently when something sustains a blow it is undoubtedly weaker than it was before. Though you may be 100% correct and odds are 999 times out of 1,000 the structure of the tire would have been fine. There is that chance that it would not be. It is this critical thought process that allows the majority to assess and make an educated decision of what is acceptable risk. Given the means and ability to not take the risk one would be best served removing the potential of danger using this thought process. Hence avoiding a Darwin award and sustaining themselves for future endeavors. Though you have made your point abundantly clear, I am not sure the point you are trying to prove. The OP requested advise. He received a fair amount from all spectrums and that helped him make the decision he is comfortable with. This is the time where we lay down our arms in the matter and congratulate the OP on solving his situation and moving on with his life. No one per say is right or wrong, it is all just advise given freely to help the OP come to the best decision that suits him. Do not worry, a new crusade will come along shortly. One in which you may entirely invest yourself and perhaps will provide you the validation you so desperately crave.

Thank you for your assessment as someone might find it helpful. In this case the OP decided to go another route so lets be happy he has solved his issue and move on. Fair winds.

 

this shit is still tumbling?

 

Shipmate,

Appreciate the long winded response. In case you didn't read the entire thread, he took it to a tire professional that said it was fine. As I have said all along, I can only go by what I see in the picture. If I am missing something, the OP could surely post another picture showing a different angle.

Now I agree, but if there were real concern for these types of damage, people would be replacing their tires every time they hit a pothole. Tires are pretty durable and the technology that goes into them has created a very strong and reliable product. While it wouldn't hurt to replace, it comes down to risk management. Not sure a lot of people have money to throw away every time their tire gets a scratch and undoubtedly it doesn't help with a steady chorus of "replace, it isn't safe" responses from those with zero industry knowledge as well as the fact that it isn't their money. Let's be honest, it isn't your money so telling someone to throw money at something doesn't cost you anything.

In any case, I can stand behind my position with facts and real world experience. Any naysayer should be able to do the same and not state their position based on fear.

 

Lets all just hope someone believes in us as much as you believe in the local tire jokey "professional" bud... LOL. I have purchased many tires and never have I been so inclined but you give me hope. The world would indeed be a better place if that were so. I am done trolling now, you do you. Best of luck.

 

Glad you believe that fact that you have purchased a tire makes you more of an expert than someone that tires are their profession. There is a reason that the Marines have to fall under the Navy.

 

Many years ago I did work at a tire shop. Even was a territory rep for commercial tire sales at one point though I did not mention that or claim to be an expert on tires as I am not. Equivalent to staying at a "Holiday Inn" I believe is the expression. As for the Marine Corps budget being a part of the Navy, yes. Congrats we are. In most cases we even fall under the Secretary of the Navy. I have spent my share of time at sea and rather enjoyed my time catching a ride. Became an Honorable Shellback and all. I served with Navy EOD in Iraq and worked with several SEAL teams over the years while serving then as a contractor, those were some damn fine men. Men I went to war with and would gladly do again. Spent a lot of time with ODA & OGA working with the Army and even some joint ops with Rangers. Also a fine bunch to be associated with. Spent many nights chain smoking with Air Force forward observers wondering if it would be our last, also a damn fine group. For your service I also thank you. Though am doubtful we share much in comparison of our military service, everyone does their part. I have found that there are many great people in every branch, and other than giving each other a hard time find no reason to beat my chest because I am or was or any of that. Perhaps in time you will come to the same conclusion. Perhaps not. I am proud to have been in a Department of the United States Navy. THE MEN'S DEPARTMENT!