Dobinsons 2016-2023 Taco Suspension Options

Would the MRR work with a long travel setup?

 

I'd probably be picking up 221s, so I'll just be using the pre determined coil seat

Just confused which coil to get since the website says ACLBs sit 1" higher in the front, and I have the added variable of the 111s sitting lower once compressed

Hoping to maintain a 'factory-ish' rake to the vehicle

Thanks and sorry if I'm explaining the problem poorly, just trying to find the correct coil height for an AC to compliment a 1.5" lift in the back

 

My opinion, when in doubt, go one spring size longer. How much constant weight are you adding to the 111s?

 

Probably right around 600lbs. Most of it is tongue weight from a teardrop (around 300lbs dry) so its not 100% constant but I'll be towing it all over the country for the next year or so, so maybe constant 80-90% of the time?

Trying to avoid the back end riding unreasonably high/harsh while unloaded, and also not over-stressing the IFS with any higher of a lift than is necessary
Tough figuring out the happy medium haha

 

I had 111s, but the ride was stiff while unloaded, so I went with 110s, airbags, and custom bump stops. Also, hammer hangers, E rated tires, 4:88 gears and KDMax tune. We adjusted the front coil-overs 2x after install, and I'm ready to go max 354 spring up front.

Bottom line, I can, A) haul max payload, B) tow a travel trailer, and C) ride better than stock when unloaded (110s with 0 psi in the airbags).

 

Thats great information. I've definitely considered the 110s paired with some RideRite/Daystars (tho CrikeyMike cautioned me that the 110s may not actually lift a LB because of the additional leverage involved).

I currently have a KDMAx Pro+ tune but no regear (doing it on a 4x4 sounds $$$$). Hoping if I just keep my wheel size/weight down that everything wont feel totally underpowered. Can i ask the benefit of adding hammer hangers? Does it help with articulation, or does it also add extra height to the backend?

 

@disemballerina

110s are definatley a improvement over stock, and since yours is an AC, it's not as heavy as a DCLB, so there's always that.

Hammer hangers are the bomb. Stock hangers flex and bend easy. Hammer hangers provide the foundation and positive connecting required for additional weight. They don't flex in the corners, so the truck feels more planted in the turns. Highly recommended!


Interesting thread about airbags with internal bump stops here. And here's a link to some build pics of my truck. It would be nice if there was a plug and play option with an airbag mount for bags with internal bump stops (so you can run them 0 psi), with the Daystar cradle option below. GL!

 

It depends what level of long travel kit you're looking at. Some require longer front coilovers than Dobinsons make.

 

I’m looking for a 3 inch front and 2 inch back lift and was wondering what the best route would be. Not looking for spacers or blocks. Also will not be riding around with extra weight.

 

Cool, that's the most common setup I sell for Tacoma's

C59-314 front 2" coils
GS59-220 front twin tube struts adds 1" of lift for 3" total
Dobinsons UCA's
L59-110-R rear leaf springs 2"
GS59-940 rear shocks
UB59-453-2K u-bolts
PB59-1101K bushings

Amazingly, that's all in stock too, just not with red coils.

That's the least expensive kit. When you open up this page, you'd make your selections there and also see all other possible options and add-ons. We offer 3 different levels of shocks, as shown in #1 post of this thread.
https://exitoffroad.com/product/dob...-kit-for-2005-to-2020-tacoma-4x4-double-cabs/

Let me know if you have more questions.

 

Sorry forgot to mention its for a 4x4 dcsb off-road Tacoma if that makes any difference. Also does it settle at 3/2 lift or would I expect it to drop a little.

 

OK. That's what the lift heights are all based on, a DCSB.

The lift heights are the settled lift heights.

 

Picked up a pair of the IMS59-50220 not realizing they're extended travel, so I'm currently shopping for UCAs as well

I'd like to run Dobinsons, but they make it very clear that they'll only work with lifts above 1.5" because of the preset caster

Currently my struts are set to 226mm w/ a 314 coil on them. This should provide 2" of lift but I'm also adding sliders/skids (180lbs combined) in the near future

Will the 314s hold the added armor above 1.5" or is it necessary to adjust the 226mm setting on the strut to stay in compliance with the UCA?

(111s on the rear if that makes a difference)

Thanks much @Crikeymike

 

An alignment shop can dial the caster back out with the UCA's installed, if necessary. You'll be fine to run them with the combination you have going, and you should still have closer to 2" of lift with the weight. We also don't want people buying UCA's with less lift as they're just not required. Some shops push UCA's with every single lift they sell, but they're not always required.

Sliders won't drop the front most likely. Skids might, depending how heavy the front set is.

They're in stock too: https://exitoffroad.com/product/dob...a-2005-19-hilux-2005-19-and-fortuner-2005-19/

 

Thanks for the info, super helpful as always.

I originally hadn't planned to pick up new UCAs since I was staying conservative w/ the lift, but guess I didn't fully understand the features of the 50220s when selecting them

Am I right to assume that the IMS front struts require a new UCA since they're extended travel? Does running these struts w/ a stock UCA risk damaging the components?

 

It's the clearance from the UCA to the coil that could be an issue at full droop. Are the IMS already installed? If so, just do a droop test and check for clearance. It "should" be ok, but I haven't personally checked the travel on these to see if the stock UCA's max out at full droop or not, and if the arms also hit the coil during the cycle.

 

Just popping in here to say that @Crikeymike is awesome answering questions. I'm SLOWLY working toward getting new suspension for my 21 SR and he's been honest and insightful when I've had questions about Dobinson products.

 

They have not been installed yet. Seems like contact with the coil should be easy to spot, but I'm not sure I'd recognize whether the UCA was maxed out at full droop or not..still in the process of learning. Can anyone offer insight on how to tell if the ball-joint has reached its max range of motion?

 

A stock ball joint will "max out" at a certain amount of droop. With extended travel struts, the stock UCA's are usually the limiting factor in the droop, which is why new UCA's are recommend.

 

Got it, definitely understand the need for/reasoning behind the new UCAs. Just unsure how to diagnose if that was happening or not. Will I see the ball-joint coming into contact with it's housing? Or would I need to measure the strut on full droop to see whether it was failing to reach extension?

Sorry, hope I'm not overcomplicating the question and thanks for your patience @Crikeymike