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ECU TSB Update

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by tonered, Aug 8, 2018.

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  1. Jun 21, 2022 at 8:57 AM
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    Thank you Buddy, I will look further in to this bootcamp. I just purchased a ATEQ VT31 because I run summer/winter tire setups and for some reason the id's from my summer tires didn't stay with the truck. (both summer/winter tire TPMS"s are aftermarket)
     
  2. Jun 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM
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    You're welcome!

    @Shellshock is the Bootcamp guru, but I think it is part of the Mac OS?


    I have seen posts about a/m sensors not working at times. Not sure if it is a specific type or just some FW that the Taco ECU doesn't like.
     
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  3. Jun 21, 2022 at 9:03 AM
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    Yup. Works just fine. Does require an intel Mac

    https://support.apple.com/boot-camp
     
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  4. Jun 21, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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    Sweet! thanks for the help. If I run into anything in my journey,
    I'll be sure to holler for you :):D
     
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    :thumbsup:
     
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    For what it's worth, I would recommend NOT doing the Learned Value Resets. I did that when going through the process of flashing KDMax Pro. First 50 miles totally sucked, and it took a good 1000 to 2000 miles for it to finally feel dialed in. Afterward I found out the KDMax guys don't do LVR anymore, basically for that reason. I'm a newb at this stuff, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but just letting you know what I experienced.
     
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    Sorry, but I will have to heartily disagree there. LV Resets have proven crucial in my experience for both getting a tune to adapt and to have a consistent feel when developing / testing tunes. That said, the weirdest that the Resets have ever felt has been for less than 3mi. The folks that I flash note similar weirdness. Nothing as extreme as you noted.

    Beyond that, the first first vF Tune that I tried didn't adapt well at all (1.05 SFOB). I drove around on Base for a while, then thought that I'd try the Resets. It made it a completely different tune. From there, the Resets became part of the process.


    In the end, I will continue to recommend doing the Resets, but doing what is noted is always optional. That is why the :thumbsup: and :anonymous: list exists in the 1st Post.
     
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    I do it almost every time. I've seen high transmission temps after a flash that were resolved from doing a reset. If it weren't being monitored, who knows what would have happened?

    But I also do it to not cause anything weird to happen. Let's say there's a table with values ranging from 0 to 10, and a learned value that interacts with that map and adds up to an additional 3. If the learned value was previously a 3 and the table had a set value of 4, that keeps you within the allowable range (4 + 3 < 10).
    Now let's say you flash a new tune which has a value of 9 in that table. You keep that learned value of 3 by not resetting and now you're outside of the 0 to 10 range (9 + 3 !< 10).

    This is theoretical of course, as I have not read the ECU code to confirm how it functions, but it makes sense when things aren't working as intended.
     
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    I suspected it wouldn't be as simple as I thought lol
     
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    There is nothing simple about the 3rd Gen ECU. vF Tuner posted a flow chart for one small part of the tune once. We all: :boom: .
     
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    Point well taken. After reading yours and Karl's responses, I'm glad I went through the trouble of relearning if for anything to avoid any potential issues. Appreciate the insight.
     
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    You're welcome!

    It is unlikely that there would be an issue without the Resets, but I think they are needed to get the full benefit of a tune.
     
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    ^ 100%

    LV resets make a huge difference and NOT doing them is a mistake. yeah.. sometimes the learning sucks sometimes.. but its worth it. doing a 10 minute idle definitely helps. then usually within 100 miles its fairly well sorted and fully settled by 500 or so.
     
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    Anyone have a laptop they don’t need that has a working techstream installed? Mine crashed and when I bought a new one no matter what I try no version of techstream will work on any new computer. I get it installed and registered but won’t install an ecu update. I can change any settting on a vehicle just cannot flash an ecu anymore at all
     
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    I have my old laptop that I used for TIS and VF before eventually upgrading, but it's honestly kinda shitty and a bit overtaxed, I wouldn't wish it upon you.

    At the time that I upgraded, it was able to successfully update ecu versions with TS but just couldn't seem to handle VF anymore lol

    That said, I had no issues getting a new laptop and installing one of the latest TS versions using MHHAuto's forum
     
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    I’ve tried the newest from there but can’t flash tsb updates. I’ve removed, reinstalled, and now bought a 3rd computer brand new for trial and no dice.
     
  17. Jun 25, 2022 at 7:29 AM
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    The version I'm on isn't the absolute newest, it's one or two behind, works fine for me. I'd have to see which one it is
     
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    What is Techstream saying/doing?
     
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    Does nothing but pops a screen up saying low voltage b+ check all sorts of stuff. Even with power supply hooked up.
     
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    And you're sure that the issue isn't a blown OBD fuse? @G8R_Taco ran into that issue once. Would hate to suggest getting a new laptop over something simple. I don't know if it's necessary to have a good fuse in order to do customization settings though.
     
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