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Taco PRO Owners: Interested in a spring upgrade for front?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ryan at Eibach, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Jun 2, 2022 at 12:57 PM
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    JDSmith

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    Oh man…
    I have the Wescott front kit with Deaver stage 2’s out back. Right now it sits and moves great. I’m about to throw a WarFab tomcat bumper on with a warn evo 12k. Thinking it’s going to sag that nose down… how much overall front lift did you get with the Wescott / Eibach combo?
     
  2. Jun 2, 2022 at 1:23 PM
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    It's about 24" from center hub to bottom fender in the front and 25" in the back. I've got a c4 hybrid front bumper and 10k winch.
     
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  3. Jun 3, 2022 at 7:21 AM
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    Oh man…
    Awesome thanks Clark
     
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  4. Jun 3, 2022 at 8:03 AM
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    I have a brand new set of E30-82-069-04-20 Front Coil Springs for 17 TRD PRO and and brand new rear HeadStrong AAL still in box and unopen that I am not going to be using. I am selling as a complete set in Chareslton SC area if anyone here is interested. Im going to post them after I get all the pics but if anyone here in this thread is interested PM me. I thought Id offer it up here first since I know some folks are waiting on back orders.

    Thank you
     
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  5. Jun 12, 2022 at 8:27 AM
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    Doesn't look like the bumper and winch sagged the westcott too much in the front???
     
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  6. Jun 21, 2022 at 7:47 AM
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    I decided to go ahead with the spring and aal since noone was interested in buying them from me. After i ordered them I was just going to upgrade the suspension all together but figured I'd installed these since I already had the parts. Im happy with the results as it's now sitting pretty level and the ride quality is very similar to the stock ride other than less MPGs and maybe a little stiffer. No off-road test yet or even bumpy roads as she probably hasn't had much more than 80 miles since installed. I'll put some 285s on next.

    Unrelated question: is there a market for the original springs? About 60k on them

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  7. Jun 21, 2022 at 8:48 AM
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    Any chance you have measurements front and back? I'm looking into the same setup.

    Is the AAL you have?https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/s..._AAL_with_u-bolts_(PAIR)_-_HS-TOY516-3AL.html
     
  8. Jun 21, 2022 at 8:53 AM
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  9. Jun 21, 2022 at 9:15 AM
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    Thanks!
     
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  10. Jun 22, 2022 at 6:14 AM
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    I installed mine last night. The entire job took about six hours. I thought it was super easy, especially on a new truck that has been doused with lanolin. Every bolt just came out nice and easy.

    I opted for a custom leaf-pack from Alcan with the "flip kit" and an upgraded bump stop. The flip kit on the right side fouled the rear shock, so I had to make a modification.

    Installing the front springs using the lower-control arm method - not sure why people freak out about this - it's easy-peasy. We used to do this in High-School all the time, I thought that was just how it was done. However, one tip with this is; once I got the top of the shock barely through the hole in top hat, I'd just pull the spring forward until it seated correctly. Also, since the top hat stays with the truck, make sure you put the coil over back in the same way it came out so the spring sits in the top hat nicely.

    I'm not sure how much these settle, but the front's seem a lot taller than I was expecting.

    My concern right now is I really want the rear to be sitting higher than the front. Depending on how these settle, I may end up putting my overload leaf back in, which I'd rather not have to do. I effectively got the exact same left/right height. Current measurements from the center of the wheel:

    Front: 23 1/2
    Rear: 24 1/4


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  11. Jun 23, 2022 at 12:53 AM
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    Do you have the before heights?

    Using my stock height of 21.5”, you gained 2” from the +1.3” spring?
     
  12. Jun 23, 2022 at 6:27 AM
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    I wrote down my before height and lost the paper. But my before numbers were all in line with everyone elses here. It's a bone stock 2021 Pro. And yes, 2" at the front is a bit more than I was hoping for. I mean, the truck looks good now, but if those leafs sag at all, I'm going be all "Bro"
     
  13. Jun 23, 2022 at 8:31 AM
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    Hopefully the front settles more than the rear. It doesn’t look bro at the moment.

    what’s your tire size?
     
  14. Jun 23, 2022 at 8:35 AM
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    Thanks, yes, right now it looks really good! And I'm on OEM size 265/70R17s.
     
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    Anyone else getting squeaks up front? Toyota thought they fixed it (see pics above), but it’s back, worse, and they’re now attributing it to the springs.
     
  16. Jun 24, 2022 at 1:20 PM
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    Looks great. I sold my springs on eBay. $100.
     
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  17. Jun 24, 2022 at 1:23 PM
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    I'm getting the squeaks. Thought I avoided at first, but not so. Not sure how to address it yet.
     
  18. Jun 24, 2022 at 2:13 PM
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    I'll let you know what Toyota concludes. Eibach has responded with the following:
    "(1st msg) Springs don't typically squeak. Squeaking is usually a bushing or some other articulating suspension component...(2nd)If there is some rubbing between the spring and some component on the coilover that is causing the friction/squeaking, then, there should be some witness marks on the two parts, they would be visible marks that indicate some type of rubbing...(3rd) I rarely get calls or e-mail on the TRD Pro. Typically the only calls are in regards to lift amounts and spring rates, etc. Did Toyota confirm that there were witness marks on the spring/coilover that would indicate there is some sort of rubbing?...(4th) Considering the 2019-20 model TRD Pro had a TSB for the fronts due to noise issues, I'm a little leary of them blaming the springs...(5th)Toyota has a TSB #0094-20 for the 2019-2020 model year TRD Pro. Now in that case it was a knocking noise if I remember correctly."

    If others have experienced this, please reach out to Eibach so they know it's a thing.
     
  19. Jun 25, 2022 at 5:48 AM
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    I got the squeaks up front after install of these springs.

    Also got more lift than I thought - 2” beyond what the Pro shocks already gave me on my Off-road.
     
  20. Jun 27, 2022 at 8:25 AM
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    thanks! Im happy with the results. Im looking forward to putting 285's on now I just got these tires approx 10k miles on them so I might hold off. Im going to probably put the old springs on ebay and see what they will fetch. Thanks for the info.
     
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