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What DSC adjusters setting would you guys recommend for washboards roads @ speeds ~40mph ?

 

Depends on several factors, there isn't likely a one-size-fits-most answer. What are your current settings? You'll want to adjust your high speed knob to change that characteristic. Lower = softer but you might start bottoming out if too soft.

 

looking at this kit for my 2nd gen:
(1) - The Fox 2.0 Coilovers are an excellent performance and offroad upgrade, great for daily drivers and weekend romps alike. We've ran these on our own vehicles, let us know if we can help out with yours! (shocksurplus.com)
rears say 0-1" of lift? unsure of how I would achieve that outside of a 1" block.... seems like any add-a-leaf or leaf pack available is 1.5"+... curious what the application of these rear shocks are for and what alternatives there are if you wanted to go up ~1.5-2" in the rear to maintain factory rake.

 

Quick question, I just installed my Fox 2.5 w/ resi’s and 700lb springs in the front replacing my Bilstein 5100 w/ 888 coils, but it seems like I lost lift in the front now, measurement is 21” from bottom to top of the coil overs. It just seems to squat in the front too much.. the rake is insane now, any ideas?

 

Where exactly did you measure the coilovers to get that 21" number?
What leaf pack do you have?
How much weight was added f/r over stock?

 

I measured from the bottom where the shock mounts to the LCA to the top hat.

Leaf pack is the Deaver U402 stage 2 and no extra weight as of yet, still waiting for bumper

Measurements from ground to fender with 33” tires in front is at about 38 1/2” and rear from gound to fender is sitting at about 41 1/2”

 

Measure that again from center of the wheel hub to fender instead. Ground to fender isn't the most accurate way to do it.

 

Measurements from center of the wheel hub are just under 23” to fender in front and just under 25” to fender in rear

 

Got it, thanks. I also recently installed Deaver U402 Stage 2 (granted it's a 2nd gen so there are some small differences up front but rear is the same). I am sitting at 24.75" in the rear, hub to fender which matches yours so that sounds right.

One more question on the front: Are the 700lb springs a 14" spring? Assuming yes. And what is the spring measurement (i.e. preload)? Relevant AccuTune article here, for yours it's a minimum length of 11-3/4" (or put another way, max preload of 2.25")

I had a whole paragraph typed here and then realized I'm an idiot and I measured my shock lengths while the coilover assembly was sitting on my spring compressor (link to relevant post in my build). Of course all my shock measurements are the same 22.5" because it's drooped out - sorry my data there is junk. That being said, I was getting about 24" hub to fender with spring compressed to 11" (how they arrived to my door from AccuTune/Fox, possibly too much), 23"+/- hub to fender at 11.5" spring length, and my current 22.5" hub to fender at 12" spring length. Those numbers are for the standard 600lb x 14" spring and measured while sitting on my wall mounted spring compressor. That's all the free data I have to share, and it may be worth even less than free so take it for what it is.

@AccuTune Offroad - that reminds me you might want to add the min/max sizes for the newer PES shocks to your article here: https://accutuneoffroad.com/preload-adjustments-on-oem-fit-coilovers/

 

Yeah the springs are 14” with 1/2” preload, preload might be why I’m squatting so much right?

 

I can’t say for sure because I’m definitely not the expert, but yeah I’d guess you need to adjust the preload a bit more. By how much? No idea, every truck has different gear so it’s trial and error. Write down your measurements as you go so you can reference it later - that way if you want future adjustments you can get in the ballpark more easily.

 

Did you look at our article to determine you have 1/2" of preload? Preload is not threads showing.

You are not squatting. Your issue is not with the coilover's, its with an unloaded truck with heavy duty leaf springs in back. Those leaf springs are designed to accommodate a constant load of 4-600lb, without any weight in back its going to be way too tall like you have shown. I would imagine it rides a bit rough too, adding weight will make it more comfortable and level.

PM sent with more

 

Regarding the leafs and being unloaded I may have to disagree. From everything I researched the 2nd gen (and possibly same for 3rd gen) rear hub-to-fender measurement is 22". I couldn't confirm this on mine because my stock leafs were sagged out, but if you believe the 22" measurement given by other forum members then I also got more lift than advertised. I'm also at ~24.75" hub to fender which means I got 2.75" lift going off the 22" assumption.

I have a camper shell, custom-built drawer/platform, couple hundred pounds of tools and camping gear, and other misc stuff at any given time. Estimate on the extreme low end would be 400 lbs, and I'm sure I've had more than 700-800lbs for a recent trip. My leafs have not gone down even 1/16" the entire time no matter how much I have loaded into it. I found reports of this in other threads around TacomaWorld as well so I wasn't surprised by it. But yeah I don't think it's the case any more that they give a flat 2" of lift when loaded at the spec'd weights.

That's not to say they ride rough or anything - quite opposite really, I like them so far - but you should know real world people are getting more lift than advertised with the latest Deavers.

And to show that I believe my 24.75" measurement is accurate, here's a photo of me measuring using a laser level to help remove the "calibrated eyeball" error factor that can happen in these cases (photo is of the front but same method used on rear).

 

Feel free to disagree. I was not referring to your truck, I was talking about Freedomtacos truck. It's easy to compare similar components, but at the end of the day they are two very different trucks.

@_FREEDOMTACO
Front coilovers can be adjusted, so if the shock lengths based on this drawing are about 21", thats basically our max recommended height for optimal ride quality. Reply back to my PM if you have any more questions.

 

I understand you were talking about _FREEDOMTACO's truck. All I'm saying is that the Deavers, in my experience and mentioned by several other TW forum users, give more lift than the advertised 2" even when loaded. For _FREEDOMTACO's specific truck/configuration would they benefit from adding some weight for better ride? Yes, I agree completely. Will adding weight sag the springs enough to dial back the lift height? I'm skeptical based on my tests. That's all. Just trying to help people know what to expect.

Not saying anything else about the front coilovers though, _FREEDOMTACO needs to do some more measurements and/or preload adjustments to figure out that part.

 

Interesting. I have stage 1’s which gave me 2 1/8” and 2 1-4”. That’s pretty spot on given I literally run no weight currently and more weight capacity tells me it’s designed for 150 lbs in the bed as the sweet spot likely. Springs have a constant related to force (weight) so more weight has to give more deflection. If they’re super stiff yea it won’t be much deflection. Not sure why youre using stage 2 unless you run a rtt with bed rack and probably still need more weight in the bed to be in the weight range or rear bumper

i went camping this weekend and when I had my off-road tools and coolers, etc it sat more level (closer to how I had it factory which was basically no rake, which is interesting to note) with the added 100lbs or so

 

Could Fox suspension be set up for a heavy camper truck? With permanently mounted 1500lb camper? I need new suspension, and want good suspension. I have OME nitrocharger's, and they work, but the ride is rough.

 

Short answer is yes, we could set you up with some Fox shocks tuned for your weight and driving style. With that kind of weight, we will really need to make sure you have a proper leaf pack to start, then a tuned shock to control all that weight.

 

I do have a heavy deaver leaf pack on the back. As well as airbags I use for fine adjustments.. (20-40lbs). The rig was built by "Mainilne Overland" and they did a pretty good job setting it up. They build a lot of these tacoma/four wheel camper rigs. Time for something better, tho.

I sent you an email a couple days ago with more details.. (well, I sent sales at your place an email). I'm leaving for a few weeks now, but when I return, I am serious about getting new suspension, and would love to get it from your shop if you can help set it up for me. I'll find a place to weigh my truck and whatever else you need.

Hopefully this is my last really rough overlanding trip!

edit to say, I actually just emailed sales yesterday morning.. I don't want to give the impression here, that AccuTune isn't responding to emails.. I'm just in a rush before vacation, and it seems like I sent it a couple days ago.. But it wasn't .

 

Hey everybody I've been reading and reading but have not found a definite answer. What is the maximum amount in inches can I adjust on the Fox 2.5 EXT reservoir non adjustable? I'm thinking of 3" exposed adjusted on the collar to get my lift height of 3" I want to achieve. Only weight I have is a body armor slimline bumper, roof rack, and side running boards. I want to achieve 3" in front because I want to level it with my current fox 2.0 resi with Dakar medium leaf pack that has me sitting at about 2" in rear. For those who cranked it down to maximum or near those numbers please give me your input of how much lift you received and expof ride quality.