How do you drive 5 speed manual?

Gyprat;

I aggree 1st and 2nd are too high. This is my third toyota truck and they missed the gearing on this one. To start off in first you have to slip a little more clutch than normal (bad). Second gear luggs below 15 mph (bad). For rolling stops I just half to ease the power into second gear(bad). Pulling the boat out at the ramp is a real clutch smoker (real bad).

I plan to go down one tire size to help change the gearing. Not much life left in my factory tires.

 

I still don't know why all of you are still talking about this.

 

ive driven a standard all my life. i too find my 4 banger hard to get into first. works fine when going less than 5mph but it wont go in any faster... maybe something with the 2010s??? when its cold out its even harder to get into first. Im using

$29 75W-90 Synthetic Gear Lube - 1 Quart (Pack of 2)

75W-90 as recommended. Ive tried double clutching, ive tried matching rpms. it acts like the clutch doesnt fully engage but it does because its smooth as butter when sitting still. Ive just gotten used to it.

 

yea im 6' 6" and wanted the extra room of the t100 after considering a silverado and not quite willing to bend over that far for gas

a fellow tw member who changed my timing belt and owns an 01 taco xcab commented on how roomy the t100s are

anyhow, im suprised you dont have enough power in second if your momentum is going

 

My brand new '11 2.7l 5 sp AC shifts similarly. It can be stubborn to get into 1st. Reading this thread completely through, it sounds like me best tactic would be to drive it for a while to see if it loosens up/wears in a bit. I will eventually change out the transmission oil to Redline, as this seems to be the only practical solution offered here, but I do not want to do that until the warranty has expired.

 

Keep forcing it into 1st while the truck is moving; you'll be buying a new tranny. First you will destroy the synchros then you'll destroy the gear. Good luck! Steve

 

I don't understand why you guys are trying to put your truck into first while you are moving................

 

shift into 1st gear and then into reverse with clutch in. realigns the gears and works every time. I have the same problems as you but i think its b/c the truck is much different than other cars/trucks and comes down to your shifting habits. Many of my buddies have barely been able to drive my truck at first.

 

Agreed but i think the fact of the matter was mentioned before very well. At certain speeds below 10mph you have two choices: 1st gear and all the said issues/wear that come with that or 2nd and lugging the engine pretty bad. The issue is the gears are spaced too far apart for the torque but with practice and downshifting you can reduce the wear.

I usually just stop and put it in first or blimp throttle if im crawling as I would rather just piss someone off behind me then lug the engine in 2nd all the time. I got used to it.

 

Mine's the same Yoytoda, & I've never tried to force 1st gear while I'm anywhere over 5mph, double cultching or not...that's just putting too much stress on the synchros & gears.

Is there a post on changing the Transmission oil on my 2010 AC Preunner 2.7L 5Spd? It's got 16k miles & I've read the fill plug(at top right?) & drain plug torque is 27'lbs, it takes @ 2.3-2.7 quarts till it seeps out the fill hole. But what I'm trying to decide is using Toyota 75-90W dino factory trans oil, Redline Mt90 GL4, or Amsoil....

So far it sounds like Amsoil & Redline both make these 5spds shift well initially, but they break down over time...so is the factory Toyota oil the best solution? Does anyone have actual 1st hand experience with any of these?

 

I don't know how some of you guys can claim you "know how to RPM match" and then go on to say in the next breath that the truck won't go into first.

Look, it's simple really. If you match the RPMs correctly, you don't have a problem.

I'm through repeat repeat repeating myself. I'm outta here.

 

Where did you hear that? All oils break down but at different rates and a synthetic not as much they just get dirty. I drained my factory oil after 5k miles and it was full of fine particles and couldn't shift in the cold. Redline helped the cold shifting but that's off topic and in countless other threads.....so search on please and good luck with whatever oil you choose as it will do fine.

 

It's certainly different shifting than my 82 5 spd was but nothing you can't adjust to. It seems to be made resistant to destruction might be why you can't force it into 1st. The reverse thing is not unique to this setup, either put it in another gear then go back to rev or do the clutch pedal and try again. Yeah, it lugs in low rpm in 2nd, drive where it doesn't. Not that big of a deal. Mine has 86k on it and oversize tires and I don't have any crazy issues with it lugging in traffic nor is my clutch toast yet. Adapt. How many people having problems have the URD short shifter kit? Supposed to improve shifting. It's in the garage but not on the truck so I cannot speak to that just yet. Might be something to look into for those having issues...........

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/5-lug/135189-urd-short-shifter.html

 

I have a short throw and its harder to shift into certain gears but makes the shifts more solid and I like that. Shorter throw requires more leverage to shift and some have issues getting into reverse after install but it's worth it in my opinion.

 

Sounds like people having issues with stock shouldn't bother then....

 

I'm not gonna read this whole damn thread, but my suggestion is don't put your foot all the way to the floor on the clutch. I learned this one from driving bigger rigs. Most big trucks, you can't just push the clutch in and expect it to go into gear.

oh and I don't know a single vehicle that you can get into first gear without coming to damn near a stop. Its there for a reason, trust me on this one, and ask me how I know? LoL

 

i know how to rpm match. i have a class b cdl. have driven all kinds of trucks with and without syncronized trannies. ive autocrossed my gto and my civic si. I know how to drive stick, i know how to rpm match. I am telling you that first gear in my truck does not seem to work right.

my tranny does not work smoothly when rpm matching, it works smoother but not like it should.

 

Funny; ever since installing that DT header i can be in 5th gear at 22 mph and it just eats it up. Steve

 

IMO - It is not like I want to drop the tranny into 1st at 25mph, but if the tranny were designed to drop into first at about 5mph faster than it currently is, it would allow for much smoother transitioning in stop and go situations. I believe that is what most folks in this thread are talking about. The ratio's feel fine to me, it the inability to get into 1st at a prudent speed that is the issue here.
I am OK with it, I just learn to drive around it, but it is annoying and does seem to be something that could be easily rectified with the Toyota Engineering/Developement Team.
I would never "force" the tranny into 1st, as I am aware of the damage that will most likely result from doing so.

 

to me it feels like there is no perfect balance between 5-10mph. like at 7mph is to slow for second and its tough to get it into first so it makes for a jerky transition in stop and go traffic. i just stay a bit further back and deal with it. i dont think there is a problem per say but i just think 1st is "odd" and could be better