1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Which fuses to pull for compression test?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by digcolnagos, Jul 28, 2022.

  1. Jul 29, 2022 at 6:16 AM
    #21
    Clearwater Bill

    Clearwater Bill Never answer an anonymous letter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Member:
    #140097
    Messages:
    24,579
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Billy
    Largo Florida
    Vehicle:
    '13 5 lug AC w/convenience package
    A few OE parts from fancy trucks
    What does being manual have to do with a failed compression test?
     
  2. Jul 29, 2022 at 6:58 AM
    #22
    Smokestacks

    Smokestacks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2020
    Member:
    #333324
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    BayArea
    Vehicle:
    1996 3.4L 4x4 Tacoma extra cab MT.
    Eaton Truetac limited slip Bilstein 5100s struts set at 2” 5100s shocks Torch add a leaf B&M short throw shifter Hella h4 headlights Warn front hitch Curt rear hitch Sony DSX-GS900 Deck Custic 1000watt amp Alumpro 10” sub Lund Steel Gullwing tool box Broadway rearview mirror Weather tech window deflectors
    I don’t think he stepped the clutch in.


    It could be bad wire, bad injector, bad valve, or slightly leaking gasket. Leak down test is a way to check valves and it only a little different then compression test.
     
    wilcam47 and 0xDEADBEEF like this.
  3. Jul 29, 2022 at 7:21 AM
    #23
    Jakuku Pahwheenis

    Jakuku Pahwheenis i provide useless forum contributions

    Joined:
    May 27, 2022
    Member:
    #398083
    Messages:
    1,098
    First Name:
    J Phoenix
    South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2003 Xtracab 2.7L 3RZ-FE 4x4 manual 245K+ miles
    Timmy the Toolman did a good video on valve clearance checks. Look it up, it could actually help you out. I did it on mine and it improved my cylinder compression because they had worn far out of spec. I was getting intermittent misfires from low compression. If you aren't comfortable doing it yourself, I recommend taking it to the dealership to have it done. If it hasn't ever been checked and adjusted, this could be contributing to your problem. I ended up having to take my cams out to actually change the shims. You can read about that experience here: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...hooting-and-diagnostics-advice-needed.768000/

    Also, you could check the spark plugs for oil buildup, which could prevent ignition and contribute to misfire.
     
  4. Jul 29, 2022 at 7:31 AM
    #24
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    So you're going with sheer coincidence re: the issue temporarily resolving itself? Sounds good to me. The light first went on as soon as I started it up after getting gas. I don't know whether that's a clue of any significance.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2022 at 7:52 AM
    #25
    Smokestacks

    Smokestacks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2020
    Member:
    #333324
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    BayArea
    Vehicle:
    1996 3.4L 4x4 Tacoma extra cab MT.
    Eaton Truetac limited slip Bilstein 5100s struts set at 2” 5100s shocks Torch add a leaf B&M short throw shifter Hella h4 headlights Warn front hitch Curt rear hitch Sony DSX-GS900 Deck Custic 1000watt amp Alumpro 10” sub Lund Steel Gullwing tool box Broadway rearview mirror Weather tech window deflectors
    Being the issue is only on cylinder 3. No
    I think everyone else might be right in jumping into the valves but I could see how it could be the injector too. I did miss the fact you didn’t change the wires do that 1st. Checking the valves isn’t as hard as you might think. Just shove a feeler gauge between the shim/bucket between the cam lobe. Hardest part is spinning the crank pulley around to the right spot for different cylinders. I said leak down because you will also see if it is a gasket but you stated you not losing coolant so you’ll get more information from checking valves.
     
  6. Jul 29, 2022 at 9:20 AM
    #26
    skeezix

    skeezix Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2010
    Member:
    #45512
    Messages:
    2,313
    Gender:
    Male
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    1998 Limited
    Could also be an injector that's going bad.
     
  7. Jul 29, 2022 at 9:27 AM
    #27
    Clearwater Bill

    Clearwater Bill Never answer an anonymous letter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Member:
    #140097
    Messages:
    24,579
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Billy
    Largo Florida
    Vehicle:
    '13 5 lug AC w/convenience package
    A few OE parts from fancy trucks
    The truck would jump the first time it was cranked if that was the case.

    I assume both are smart enough to not do that again.

    So I still don't understand why all the fuss over pulling fuses, relays and such, then blaming it on pops and a manual transmission.

    What am I missing?
     
  8. Jul 29, 2022 at 9:30 AM
    #28
    Smokestacks

    Smokestacks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2020
    Member:
    #333324
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    BayArea
    Vehicle:
    1996 3.4L 4x4 Tacoma extra cab MT.
    Eaton Truetac limited slip Bilstein 5100s struts set at 2” 5100s shocks Torch add a leaf B&M short throw shifter Hella h4 headlights Warn front hitch Curt rear hitch Sony DSX-GS900 Deck Custic 1000watt amp Alumpro 10” sub Lund Steel Gullwing tool box Broadway rearview mirror Weather tech window deflectors
    Idk about his truck mine has a safety feature where it won’t start without pushing the clutch in(I’m personally wanting to delete that system as I can see where it can become a problem). And if it’s in between gears or in N no won’t jump. He didnt want lose his liquid gold.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2022 at 9:33 AM
    #29
    Clearwater Bill

    Clearwater Bill Never answer an anonymous letter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Member:
    #140097
    Messages:
    24,579
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Billy
    Largo Florida
    Vehicle:
    '13 5 lug AC w/convenience package
    A few OE parts from fancy trucks
    Makes sense. Thanks for the reminder. I had disabled that feature on my last vehicle that had that. :anonymous:
     
  10. Jul 29, 2022 at 10:01 AM
    #30
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    I should change all four fuel injector wires or just one?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9niwrmeFQE
     
  11. Jul 29, 2022 at 10:19 AM
    #31
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly right. I was doing everything right but that didn't matter because my assistant figured he could put the truck in neutral and it would crank, even after being told that you have to depress the clutch--the older some folks get, the more they think they know everything and don't listen. Issue was discovered when truck began rolling when I leaned against it. He hadn't put it back in gear.

    I hope this clears things up for everyone.
     
  12. Jul 29, 2022 at 10:23 AM
    #32
    Smokestacks

    Smokestacks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2020
    Member:
    #333324
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    BayArea
    Vehicle:
    1996 3.4L 4x4 Tacoma extra cab MT.
    Eaton Truetac limited slip Bilstein 5100s struts set at 2” 5100s shocks Torch add a leaf B&M short throw shifter Hella h4 headlights Warn front hitch Curt rear hitch Sony DSX-GS900 Deck Custic 1000watt amp Alumpro 10” sub Lund Steel Gullwing tool box Broadway rearview mirror Weather tech window deflectors
    Spark
    I was referring to the injector it self but would make sense for You to check that too. I’d just throw a voltage meter on it see if the if the wires are good. Arizonabrain noticed when you were explaining the work you’ve done you didn’t mention spark plug wire. I’d check that. Could possibly move them around see if it changes where the misfire is happening.
     
  13. Jul 29, 2022 at 10:57 AM
    #33
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    I has coils, so like this? https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/denso-first-time-fit-ignition-wire-set-f1020332900nd/11732640-P

    If so, I could check the existing wires with a multi meter, no?

    Thanks.
     
  14. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:06 AM
    #34
    Smokestacks

    Smokestacks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2020
    Member:
    #333324
    Messages:
    306
    Gender:
    Male
    BayArea
    Vehicle:
    1996 3.4L 4x4 Tacoma extra cab MT.
    Eaton Truetac limited slip Bilstein 5100s struts set at 2” 5100s shocks Torch add a leaf B&M short throw shifter Hella h4 headlights Warn front hitch Curt rear hitch Sony DSX-GS900 Deck Custic 1000watt amp Alumpro 10” sub Lund Steel Gullwing tool box Broadway rearview mirror Weather tech window deflectors
    I don’t remember how your engine is all laid out. Does your truck have those? But yes if it does the move a number 3 wire and another around see if the misfire moves. Ther is ways to find the issue rather buying and throwing a bunch parts at it unless you have the money to do so.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2022
  15. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:38 AM
    #35
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    I see no spark plug wires:

    PXL_20220729_181018463.jpg
     
  16. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:41 AM
    #36
    0xDEADBEEF

    0xDEADBEEF Swaying to the Symphony of Destruction

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2019
    Member:
    #285037
    Messages:
    19,668
    Vehicle:
    2000 reg cab 4x4 flatbed MT
    You've got coil on plug, so you'd want to swap the coils between cylinders instead.
     
  17. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:41 AM
    #37
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    Also, it's officially become intermittent. Had a couldn't miss appointment. There now. Everything fine. So, engine light on for two months, misfiring develops, now off and on. Beginning to think maybe a loose wire leading to number three coil. Would that make sense?
     
  18. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:42 AM
    #38
    0xDEADBEEF

    0xDEADBEEF Swaying to the Symphony of Destruction

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2019
    Member:
    #285037
    Messages:
    19,668
    Vehicle:
    2000 reg cab 4x4 flatbed MT
    Could be other things too. I've seen coils crack with heat and age, that can make them a little weird.
     
  19. Jul 29, 2022 at 11:42 AM
    #39
    digcolnagos

    digcolnagos [OP] Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2021
    Member:
    #375312
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    Replaced coils. Didn't help. Then to do compression check, took them off again and destroyed rubber plug boots, so put old ones back.

    I think I can rule out coils.
     
  20. Jul 29, 2022 at 1:24 PM
    #40
    Jakuku Pahwheenis

    Jakuku Pahwheenis i provide useless forum contributions

    Joined:
    May 27, 2022
    Member:
    #398083
    Messages:
    1,098
    First Name:
    J Phoenix
    South Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2003 Xtracab 2.7L 3RZ-FE 4x4 manual 245K+ miles
    *Cough cough* valve clearance check *cough*
     

Products Discussed in

To Top