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1st Gen Lunchtable Thread - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Speedytech7, May 31, 2018.

  1. Jul 30, 2022 at 6:29 PM
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    So I’m trying to design the auxiliary electrical system for the service van at work with the dual battery system powering the accessories.

    I’m going to have a remote switch panel in the cab which sends a low amperage 12v signal to trigger the relay, which then powers the accessory.

    Am I correct in fusing the power pin for the relay, instead of fusing the output of the relay?

    Also, since I’m sending power from the cab (albeit long amperage) do I need to fuse each switch? Or can I just fuse the entire switch panel

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    Yes on fusing the line side of the relay. You could fuse the load side, but its not standard practice.

    As for the other question, I think fusing each switch is overkill if the switch is only to trigger a relay which is fused like stated above.
     
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    Fuse as close to battery as possible so it "sees" a short anywhere after it. Etc.
     
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    Got it. I was going to fuse each line of each relay using one of these. And yes, they are just trigger wires.

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    Cool, thank you.

    Maybe this is opening up a can of worms... but when would you use a circuit breaker over a fuse? For my dual battery system, the auto charging relay calls for a 100A or so fuse on each positive terminal of the battery. Why a fuse over a CB?
     
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    It is a can of worms. In industrial controls we have to think about what is called the trip curve of a breaker and how the load will react to it. 9/10 times its just easier to use a fuse.
     
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    Interesting. I also ask because some of our buses use circuit breakers on the system, or fuses.
     
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    Good question. Generally you will see both in series in things that really matter, but for a car just chose whatever is more convenient. I have a 200A CB on mine and a 100A fuse down the line.
    Fuses can be slower.
    Not saying this is how it will happen, but if I have a 100A load for 3 seconds and a 200A spike for 0.1sec, the fuse could be fine and the CB will trip.
     
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