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batacoma · Aug 11, 2022

HB Taco said: ↑

Funny.
Is an engine and a motor the same thing?

“People use both interchangeably, but the difference is that motors run on electricity and engines run on combustion.
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Motors can be an internal combustion engine.

maineah · Aug 11, 2022

Superdave1.0 said: ↑

Plenty of electric cars on the road have motor failure. A quick Google search shows Tesla model 3, model Y and model S all have had motor failures. Not a huge number, but they do happen.
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It's not an engine it's a motor! That was my point! If some thing had chronic engine problems the likely hood of selling them would be slim. The manufactures test run these things to death just to see what they can break then take it apart to find out why.

Jasonstacoma · Aug 11, 2022

This is ridiculous. I'm mad bc my warranty expired and they won't pay for it? Wtf. Entitled much? It's part of the game of owning a vehicle, shit happens.

TheSpartan · Aug 11, 2022

HB Taco said: ↑

Funny.
Is an engine and a motor the same thing?

“People use both interchangeably, but the difference is that motors run on electricity and engines run on combustion.
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Not all motors run on electricity. Electric motors run on electricity.

An engine IS a motor...
A motor is not necessarily an engine

ColoradoTJ · Aug 11, 2022

@Taco Tyrant

crazysccrmd said: ↑

Agreed, but sometimes shit does happen and that's why there is a warranty period. I don't want to do that math of how many of these engines have been produced but given the huge range of models Toyota/Lexus uses it in I'm sure its in the millions. I doubt it's a common problem.
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Superdave1.0 said: ↑

I find it very interesting that your 3.5 engine has failed, one month after you mocking me. By the way, one more of them 3.5 engines blew, in your truck.
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FL_TRD Sport said: ↑

I gotta go with @TRD-ED on this one. Nothing is perfect and sometimes mistakes are made. If 99.5% of the 252,490 Tacomas sold in 2021 had no engine problems, that would still leave 1,262 trucks with engine failures. It sucks for those 1,262 owners, but for the other 251,228 it's a rock solid engine. Focusing on the outliers is not a valid representation of reliability.

There is a (fortunately) small group of members who seem to take pleasure in bashing and add nothing other than self aggrandizement to discussions. Many of them don't own 3rd Gen Tacomas, or even own Tacomas at all any more. They rarely if ever contribute anything constructive. The last thing I would do, regardless of what my opinion was, is bash some poor guy whose truck is sitting torn down in a shop for weeks by telling him he was stupid for buying it in the first place. I really wish people would think of someone other than themselves and treat others with a modicum of respect and decency.
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Let’s find out what percent of members here have had some sort of major engine failure/repair. To make this clear, anything like a head coming off to full replacement.

I will start a thread and link it here. I’m generally interested in the results. I will need your help though and tag me when you fine someone that may not have posted in the thread.

Turd Ferguson · Aug 11, 2022

Jasonstacoma said: ↑

This is ridiculous. I'm mad bc my warranty expired and they won't pay for it? Wtf. Entitled much? It's part of the game of owning a vehicle, shit happens.
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Stockholm Syndrome

ColoradoTJ · Aug 11, 2022

I also do not want to be the bad guy, but we have a site to manage. Name calling and what not will not end well. Give the OP a little break and a little compassion. We also don't need to call out members with other makes/models. @Taco Tyrant, I will clean up some of your comments as well. You are being given a bit of rope here.....

Not sure about most of you, but I for one would be pretty upset on a two year old truck needing a replacement motor already. To put some icing on the cake, he now has to deal with a used mystery motor that had 55K miles on it AND could have the same problem relatively soon again.

Hooper89 · Aug 11, 2022

danielxsq said: ↑

Are Toyotas known for paint fading off fairly quick?
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danielxsq said: ↑

Both my white 2021 Camry and white 2022 Tacoma have like a crack on the roof. I may have them install that xpel on the roof to prevent it from coming off.
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Post up pics in the white thread it could be the same thing.

Taco Tyrant[OP] said: ↑

I’m gonna gold wrap (fake ass gold plastic) my frankentaco when my paint falls off
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I'd wrap mine neon green but I hear that it fades/peels in sunshine or heat.

ColoradoTJ · Aug 11, 2022

@Taco Tyrant @Superdave1.0

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2gr-fks-engine-problem-failure.774579/

Taco Tyrant · Aug 11, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

I also do not want to be the bad guy, but we have a site to manage. Name calling and what not will not end well. Give the OP a little break and a little compassion. We also don't need to call out members with other makes/models. @Taco Tyrant, I will clean up some of your comments as well. You are being given a bit of rope here.....

Not sure about most of you, but I for one would be pretty upset on a two year old truck needing a replacement motor already. To put some icing on the cake, he now has to deal with a used mystery motor that had 55K miles on it AND could have the same problem relatively soon again.
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@ColoradoTJ good points. My bad for being a lil too spicy with my shenanigans. I’ll clean it up.. thanks for the info!

ColoradoTJ · Aug 11, 2022

Taco Tyrant[OP] said: ↑

@ColoradoTJ good points. My bad for being a lil too spicy with my shenanigans. I’ll clean it up.. thanks for the info!
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No problem...I just want to keep this thread going and can feel your pain. I had a similar problem on a Dodge 2500 Cummins truck and nobody had a bit of sympathy for me (cliff notes: 43K miles and the dealer wadded up my motor and they said "sue us").

If I were in this situation...Good lord. I have a 2GR-FSE with 148K miles with minimal off-road (IS350), but it has been stuck offroad and in my driveway. If my motor shits the bed...retirement vehicle comes early I guess. IS F has always been in my sights, but the wife wants a C8 Corvette.

ABA180 · Aug 11, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

No problem...I just want to keep this thread going and can feel your pain. I had a similar problem on a Dodge 2500 Cummins truck and nobody had a bit of sympathy for me (cliff notes: 43K miles and the dealer wadded up my motor and they said "sue us").

If I were in this situation...Good lord. I have a 2GR-FSE with 148K miles with minimal off-road (IS350), but it has been stuck offroad and in my driveway. If my motor shits the bed...retirement vehicle comes early I guess. IS F has always been in my sights, but the wife wants a C8 Corvette.
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When you say the dealer wadded up the motor and said "sue us", curious to hear more. This sounds almost illegal on the surface.

Turd Ferguson · Aug 11, 2022

Question about warranties. If Toyotas are do great and reliable why do they have only 60K power train warranties? A Gladiator has a 5 year 100K and Hyundais and Kia’s are all 60K basic and 100K power train. I think Hyundai needs to get into the mid and full-size truck game.

Toyko Joe · Aug 11, 2022

Turd Ferguson said: ↑

Question about warranties. If Toyotas are do great and reliable why do they have only 60K power train warranties? A Gladiator has a 5 year 100K and Hyundais and Kia’s are all 60K basic and 100K power train. I think Hyundai needs to get into the mid and full-size truck game.
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Hyundai kind of is already...
SUT - https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/santa-cruz

ColoradoTJ · Aug 11, 2022

ABA180 said: ↑

When you say the dealer wadded up the motor and said "sue us", curious to hear more. This sounds almost illegal on the surface.
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I’ll PM you about it. It will be later. My kids want to go shoot holes in stuff.

Toyko Joe · Aug 11, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

I’ll PM you about it. It will be later. My kids want to go shoot holes in stuff.
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I'd like to read that conversation too please.

Turd Ferguson · Aug 11, 2022

Toyko Joe said: ↑

Hyundai kind of is already...
SUT - https://www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/santa-cruz
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That’s really a mini truck like the Maverick.

Toyko Joe · Aug 11, 2022

Turd Ferguson said: ↑

That’s really a mini truck like the Maverick.
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Just by specs I would deem this into the midsize class.

Horsepower @ RPM

281@ 5800

Torque @ RPM

311 @ 1700-4000

Towing capacity (with trailer brakes, lbs.)

3500 (5000 AWD)

Payload (lbs)

1,521 (FWD) / 1,609 (AWD)

Maximum Load Limit / Vehicle Capacity Weight (lbs)

1,411

To each their own though.

Turd Ferguson · Aug 11, 2022

Toyko Joe said: ↑

Just by specs I would deem this into the midsize class.

Horsepower @ RPM

281@ 5800

Torque @ RPM

311 @ 1700-4000

Towing capacity (with trailer brakes, lbs.)

3500 (5000 AWD)

Payload (lbs)

1,521 (FWD) / 1,609 (AWD)

Maximum Load Limit / Vehicle Capacity Weight (lbs)

1,411

To each their own though.

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Well the bed is tiny so I’m going to call it a mini truck.
Also it’s smaller than the Maverick and I think most people refer to that as a mini truck with the Ranger being Fords midsize.

jwizzmasterwet · Aug 11, 2022

Taco Tyrant[OP] said: ↑

I had extended warranty so they are going to plop in a mystery salvage motor in for me that has 55k miles but with no maintenance history so hoping for the best. At a cost to extended warranty folks of $10,500 or so. As for Toyota, I’ve given them every opportunity to come look at the motor or pay the difference for a new motor (ended up being about $2300 difference) they declined every time.
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If you're not satisfied with this, you can send a DETAILED letter to Toyota Corporate. Just be sure to elaborate on your experience and you're upset that the Toyota Tacoma had a blown engine this early in it's life. Mention you feel like Toyota should put in a brand new engine, rather than a salvaged engine with 55k on it. Toyota will contact you and the dealership to check up on what's going on and with a possible route to fix the issue. Very easy to deal with.

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