Black listed by Toyota

SH10151 · Sep 7, 2022

Horseshoez said: ↑

The geoblock thing may be regional; here in New England one can drive for an hour and end up two states away. In the case of the Toyota dealership my son works in (for less than a month) here in southern(ish) New Hampshire, he has already sold cars to folks from New York, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and of course New Hampshire.
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Then there’s California…

LunarTeal · Sep 7, 2022

Chew said: ↑

They’re almost certainly buying from auctions or private parties, I’d bet dollars to donuts they’re not buying from Toyota or a Toyota dealer without a middle man, and once it goes through someone else, it gets titled to someone else and another owner negatively impacts value.
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Wouldn't shock me if they're floating the titles too.

zoo truck · Sep 7, 2022

Horseshoez said: ↑

The geoblock thing may be regional; here in New England one can drive for an hour and end up two states away. In the case of the Toyota dealership my son works in (for less than a month) here in southern(ish) New Hampshire, he has already sold cars to folks from New York, Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and of course New Hampshire.
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Heck, i bought my tacoma in boston ma. and i live 160 away on the ct, ma, ny border. This large dealer had no problem selling me one over the phone. Its the non authorized sources that are profiting by selling them, they want to shut down.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

It’s a Tacoma TRD Pro….I could understand a new Z06, a GT2, or a Italian exotic (who would want to sell one of those anyway?) but this is is ridiculous.

I would buy a competitors vehicle and write a strongly worded letter to corporate. Ensure you include a photo.

Might I recommend a JL Rubicon with the 4 cylinder turbo that can actually go off-road. Put a Fox suspension lift from Accutune, some 37’s, re-gear to 4.88, axle braces…and go have a blast. This one has 40+k miles in its current build and is currently exploring all of Alaska. You’re welcome.

SH10151 · Sep 7, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

It’s a Tacoma TRD Pro….I could understand a new Z06, a GT2, or a Italian exotic (who would want to sell one of those anyway?) but this is is ridiculous.

I would buy a competitors vehicle and write a strongly worded letter to corporate. Ensure you include a photo.

Might I recommend a JL Rubicon with the 4 cylinder turbo that can actually go off-road. Put a Fox suspension lift from Accutune, some 37’s, re-gear to 4.88, axle braces…and go have a blast. This one has 40+k miles in its current build and is currently exploring all of Alaska. You’re welcome.

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I thought about buying a TRD pro just because they look cool, but wound up buying an SR because TRD pros cost like $70,000 in the Bay Area.

You can have 2 trucks for that.

Same for the SR5 Trail. $10,000 mark up.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

SH10151 said: ↑

I thought about buying a TRD pro just because they look cool, but wound up buying an SR because TRD pros cost like $70,000 in the Bay Area.

You can have 2 trucks for that.

Same for the SR5 Trail. $10,000 mark up.
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I paid that much for my Lexus IS350 and GMC 3500 Diesel truck in the same month. 70K dollars for a Toyota Tacoma...wow.

SH10151 · Sep 7, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

I paid that much for my Lexus IS350 and GMC 3500 Diesel truck in the same month. 70K dollars for a Toyota Tacoma...wow.
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Dublin and Oakland Toyota are the worst offenders.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

SH10151 said: ↑

Dublin and Oakland Toyota are the worst offenders.
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I guess...

Chew · Sep 7, 2022

forana said: ↑

Yeah, not sure how they do it. But there's been lots of toyota trucks and suvs in the lot with paper plates, brand spanking new...
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brand new, never been titled? If that’s really the case, I’m sure that won’t last long. BTW I’m not saying you’re wrong, if you say it’s so, I’ll take your word, just not sure they’ll last or what they’re really doing.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

Goodnasty said: ↑

I got a rental wrangler in hawaii a couple years back, and i used to own an xj. The XJ i would pre-order in a heartbeat, while the wrangler left me utterly underwhelmed.. Jeep has fallen a LONG way since the 90s. What a total piece of shit the wrangler was. Nothing about it impressed me in the slightest.
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Was it a base model rental? What didn't you like about it? Specifics. Comparing a 90's XJ Jeep to a current model...I need to hear this.

Hooper89 · Sep 7, 2022

prairiecruser[OP] initial post: ↑

Has anyone here been black listed by Toyota.

I will try and make this as short as possible.

Last year I was looking for a 6MT Pro. I couldn't find one so I settled on an auto ELM. While I was waiting the two months for the auto to arrive I found a 6MT that was listed as in production with an ETA of 5-6 months, so I leave a deposit on it. I pick up the auto because with all the delays who knows if and when the 6MT is actually going to arrive and I really dont like it. But I can live with it till the 6MT comes. Well a week or two after I get the auto, the dealer with the allocation for the 6MT calls me and says bad news, Toyota cancelled the PRO 6MT on us, along with any truck that requires blind spot.

So not wanting to be stuck with the auto and risk an accident or something like that I sell it to a Toyota Dealer and figured I would wait until things get better.

I got a call on Saturday from the dealer that bought my 22 auto from me and they say they got an allocation for a 23 6MT due end of October and ask me if I want it. Yes Please I say. He says done deal I will put your name on it. Come see me Tuesday after the long weekend. I phone him right at 9am to set up a time to come down today. He says we have a problem, it looks like you may be blacklisted from buying a Pro because you already bought one and sold it. He says he has to phone corporate to find out what's going on but cant until tomorrow as he is off today. Hopefully he can get this resolved. I will be pissed if I am
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I see Friday threads happen on Tuesdays now.

Hooper89 · Sep 7, 2022

ColoradoTJ said: ↑

Was it a base model rental? What didn't you like about it? Specifics. Comparing a 90's XJ Jeep to a current model...I need to hear this.
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Yeah me too this gon be good.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

Hooper89 said: ↑

I see Friday threads happen on Tuesdays now.
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Every day seems to be Friday...

JoeCOVA · Sep 7, 2022

Not surprised. Saw a dude selling 3 TRX's on BAT or whatever. Saw the same thing with Broncos being sold.

su.b.rat · Sep 7, 2022

in purchase of my 2017 Pro 6MT i had a deposit on it for about 3 months and GST cancelled the allocation on this dealer and redirected it to another DFW dealer. rather than make it hard for me, the original dealer looked up an old coworker who worked at the new dealer, and that kept my hands on the allocation after adjusting the paperwork. no issues, no extra expense, no penalties. not the same situation exactly but similar.

prairiecruser · Sep 7, 2022

Well…… here is my situation as of now. I just spoke with the sales Mgr. My name is on “the Blacklist”. Toyota Canada will not sell me a vehicle. No Pro, no Tacoma, or anything else. I called Toyota Canada customer service. They looked into it and said the same thing. They said they don’t have to and won’t give any explanation or time line. Said there is nothing I or anyone can do and I can’t escalate it any further. My only hope is the dealership can get somewhere with this. The Gm said his Toyota sales rep won’t touch it as it is coming directly from corporate.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

Goodnasty said: ↑

I dont recall what trim level it was. The whole thing seemed cheap as shit from the seats to the interior to the doors. Everything felt like it was made out of cheap plastic. The engine felt aenemic and soulless. It handled like crap and the feedback from the road through the pedal steeringwheel and seat just felt numb and mushy. I dunno it must be a joop thing i dont get.
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Are you sure it wasn’t a Jeep renegade?

The seats I’m my buddies JLU are very nice. I can’t comment on the interior. I have only driven it maybe 400 miles. The GPS is whacked and does some stupid shit. That I can complain about.

I know you didn’t drive the 4 banger Turbo. That is a very impressive motor with plenty of get up and go. (270 Hp/295 tq). The V-6 feels pathetic, so if that is what you rented…I can agree with you on that. You definitely don’t want e-torque. Those are problematic POS.

I can’t comment on the handling. My buddies had the recall done on the steering box, replaced all steering components with manly shit, swapped out the aluminum knuckles with forged Reid Racing ones. His steering is very responsive. I have heard from others the factory steering blows.

Thanks for replying. Good to hear others opinions.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

prairiecruser[OP] said: ↑

Well…… here is my situation as of now. I just spoke with the sales Mgr. My name is on “the Blacklist”. Toyota Canada will not sell me a vehicle. No Pro, no Tacoma, or anything else. I called Toyota Canada customer service. They looked into it and said the same thing. They said they don’t have to and won’t give any explanation or time line. Said there is nothing I or anyone can do and I can’t escalate it any further. My only hope is the dealership can get somewhere with this. The Gm said his Toyota sales rep won’t touch it as it is coming directly from corporate.
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Wow. I would tell those Manitoba dealerships to suck it.

Lessons learned I guess on patience and never settling for anything.

ColoradoTJ · Sep 7, 2022

Goodnasty said: ↑

No it definitely wasnt a kia... i mean renegade. Again with enough money thrown at it any car will be great.
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That’s for sure.

I’m not much for new stuff these days anymore. I’ve been looking at Nissan Patrols (1967 or so) or LC 70 series. I want something that runs on peanut oil if need be.

forana · Sep 7, 2022

Chew said: ↑

brand new, never been titled? If that’s really the case, I’m sure that won’t last long. BTW I’m not saying you’re wrong, if you say it’s so, I’ll take your word, just not sure they’ll last or what they’re really doing.
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Brand new for sure. I don't know the details of the title.

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