How quickly does Toyota at implement TSBs into production?

Let's say the 2022 Tacoma has 30 TSBs (making a number up, I have no idea what a typical number is).

Will the 2023 model have all 30 implemented?

Disclaimer: I'm not 100% sure if "TSB" is the correct term. I'm talking about recalls and advisories and such.

Thanks.

 

TSBs are just repair instructions for common issues, if the car doesnt have the issue there is no reason to do the tsb.
Recalls are required to be performed on all vehicles before they can even be sold.

 

Usually once a TSB has been issued, the problem has already been addressed in manufacturing for sometime, to prove the problem is in fact fixed.

 

We do not have any real idea there. But, I would say that your guess is correct. The subjects of Recalls / TSBs are implemented in production at the same time or earlier than they are released to dealers.

Most recalls are required to be fixed on vehicles for sale before a new owner can take possession.

 

Thanks.

So it sounds like if a Toyota documented problem is at the point where you're reading about it, the factory has already corrected it it'll be gone by the next model year for sure.

 

It is a pretty good bet the 2016 Tacoma (first year of the Gen 3) had the highest number of TSBs assigned to it, and each subsequent model year the count has dropped. This general rule applies to most makes and models with few exceptions.

 

Is each model year's TSB count documented somewhere?

 

Like I said, there is no for sure as we do not have direct knowledge, just observations.

See my signature.

 

Got it.

Thanks.

 

You're welcome.

 

I see that there have been 10 TSB’s issued for several Toyota models including 2023 Tacoma


2023 Toyota Tacoma engine and engine coolingTSB (Bulletin T-SB-0115-22)
Bulletin Date: Dec. 22, 2022
Component: Engine and engine cooling.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2019 ? 2022 model year avalon, 2018 ? 2023 model year camry, 2017 ? 2022 model year highlander, 2017 ? 2020 model year sienna, and 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles equipped with a 2gr-fks engine may exhibit a knocking noise
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2019 Toyota Avalon, 2020 Toyota Avalon, 2021 Toyota Avalon, 2022 Toyota Avalon, 2018 Toyota Camry, 2019 Toyota Camry, 2020 Toyota Camry, 2021 Toyota Camry, 2022 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2017 Toyota Highlander, 2018 Toyota Highlander, 2019 Toyota Highlander, 2020 Toyota Highlander, 2021 Toyota Highlander,
2 2023 Toyota Tacoma gasoline fuel system TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0115-22)
Bulletin Date: Dec. 22, 2022
Component: Gasoline fuel system.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2019 ? 2022 model year avalon, 2018 ? 2023 model year camry, 2017 ? 2022 model year highlander, 2017 ? 2020 model year sienna, and 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles equipped with a 2gr-fks engine may exhibit a knocking noise
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2019 Toyota Avalon, 2020 Toyota Avalon, 2021 Toyota Avalon, 2022 Toyota Avalon, 2018 Toyota Camry, 2019 Toyota Camry, 2020 Toyota Camry, 2021 Toyota Camry, 2022 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2017 Toyota Highlander, 2018 Toyota Highlander, 2019 Toyota Highlander, 2020 Toyota Highlander, 2021 Toyota Highlander,
3 2023 Toyota Tacoma steering TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0124-20 Rev)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Steering.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission (6at) may exhibit a vibration under deceleration (coasting or braking) typically between 30 ? 10 mph. This vibration is felt in the seat, floorboard, a
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2016 Toyota Tacoma, 2017 Toyota Tacoma, 2018 Toyota Tacoma, 2019 Toyota Tacoma, 2020 Toyota Tacoma, 2021 Toyota Tacoma, 2022 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tacoma.
4 2023 Toyota Tacoma suspension TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0124-20 Rev)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Suspension.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission (6at) may exhibit a vibration under deceleration (coasting or braking) typically between 30 ? 10 mph. This vibration is felt in the seat, floorboard, a
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2016 Toyota Tacoma, 2017 Toyota Tacoma, 2018 Toyota Tacoma, 2019 Toyota Tacoma, 2020 Toyota Tacoma, 2021 Toyota Tacoma, 2022 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tacoma.
5 2023 Toyota Tacoma power train TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0124-20 Rev)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Power train.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission (6at) may exhibit a vibration under deceleration (coasting or braking) typically between 30 ? 10 mph. This vibration is felt in the seat, floorboard, a
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2016 Toyota Tacoma, 2017 Toyota Tacoma, 2018 Toyota Tacoma, 2019 Toyota Tacoma, 2020 Toyota Tacoma, 2021 Toyota Tacoma, 2022 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tacoma.
6 2023 Toyota Tacoma equipment TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0104-22)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Equipment.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: a battery in a stored vehicle is subject to conditions that can reduce its performance and service life. These conditions include storage period, temperature, parasitic drain, and battery load. Because of these factors, battery inspect
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2023 Toyota 4runner, 2023 Toyota 86, 2023 Toyota Bz4x, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Corolla, 2023 Toyota Highlander, 2023 Toyota Mirai, 2023 Toyota Sequoia, 2023 Toyota Sienna, 2023 Toyota Supra, 2023 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tundra, 2023 Toyota Venza Hybrid.
7 2023 Toyota Tacoma wheels TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0105-22)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Wheels.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: during the manufacturing process, tires are mounted on the vehicle as matched sets to help reduce conditions such as pulling or drifting. If the wheels are replaced or refinished before vehicle delivery, it is important that the tires
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2023 Toyota 4runner, 2023 Toyota 86, 2023 Toyota Bz4x, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Corolla, 2023 Toyota Highlander, 2023 Toyota Mirai, 2023 Toyota Sequoia, 2023 Toyota Sienna, 2023 Toyota Supra, 2023 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tundra, 2023 Toyota Venza Hybrid.
8 2023 Toyota Tacoma trailer hitches TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0105-22)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Trailer hitches.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: during the manufacturing process, tires are mounted on the vehicle as matched sets to help reduce conditions such as pulling or drifting. If the wheels are replaced or refinished before vehicle delivery, it is important that the tires
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2023 Toyota 4runner, 2023 Toyota 86, 2023 Toyota Bz4x, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Corolla, 2023 Toyota Highlander, 2023 Toyota Mirai, 2023 Toyota Sequoia, 2023 Toyota Sienna, 2023 Toyota Supra, 2023 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tundra, 2023 Toyota Venza Hybrid.
9 2023 Toyota Tacoma communication TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0032-22 Obs)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Communication.
Bulletin Summary: Obsolete notice November 28, 2022: this bulletin is now obsolete. Please see t-sb-0104-22.
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2023 Toyota 4runner, 2023 Toyota 86, 2023 Toyota Bz4x, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Corolla, 2023 Toyota Highlander, 2023 Toyota Mirai, 2023 Toyota Sequoia, 2023 Toyota Sienna, 2023 Toyota Supra, 2023 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tundra, 2023 Toyota Venza Hybrid.
10 2023 Toyota Tacoma communication TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0031-22 Obs)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 28, 2022
Component: Communication.
Bulletin Summary: Obsolete notice November 28, 2022: this bulletin is now obsolete. Please see t-sb-0105-22
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2023 Toyota 4runner, 2023 Toyota 86, 2023 Toyota Bz4x, 2023 Toyota Camry, 2023 Toyota Corolla, 2023 Toyota Highlander, 2023 Toyota Mirai, 2023 Toyota Sequoia, 2023 Toyota Sienna, 2023 Toyota Supra, 2023 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tundra, 2023 Toyota Venza Hybrid.
11 2023 Toyota Tacoma back over prevention TSB (Bulletin T-SB-0004-22 Rev)
Bulletin Date: Nov. 7, 2022
Component: Back over prevention.
Bulletin Summary: TSB: some 2016 ? 2023 model year tacoma vehicles may exhibit what customers describe as a 1 ? 3-second whistle noise from the hvac system when the air conditioning system is on. The whistle noise may occur as the compressor cycles on and of
Vehicles covered in this TSB:
2016 Toyota Tacoma, 2017 Toyota Tacoma, 2018 Toyota Tacoma, 2019 Toyota Tacoma, 2020 Toyota Tacoma, 2021 Toyota Tacoma, 2022 Toyota Tacoma, 2023 Toyota Tacoma.

Also see Common problems of Toyota Tacoma.

 

Just like any company decision, there's cost that plays into it.

If a TSB costs the company a $3.50 part and $50 in labor to perform on 1% of vehicles that are actually impacted by it...but it costs $30 million to re-tool something or they'd have to throw away $30 million in inventory and be down for months waiting for the new supply, they're simply not going to be in any hurry, and rightfully so.

As soon as it becomes more profitable to fix in production, they will. If it's not more profitable, and customer satisfaction does play into that equation, they're just not yet.

Obviously things like recalls (or safety concerns) are going to be a bit different.

 

Typically speaking, by the time a TSB is released, it's already been in production for some time.

That said, some TSB's are to change something that is working as designed or solving a problem that doesn't affect most owners. In these cases, it can be that the TSB is actually changing the spec of the vehicle and the production line is still producing them per the original specification.

In the second case, it can actually take a few years before the TSB is updated to allow that modification to be done to newer vehicles.

How quickly and when TSB's are released varies on a case-by-case basis.

Jeff

 

Wish they would make a recall/TSB with the water bypass joint.