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Snorkel Installation: 2nd Gen SS135MOD & 1st Gen SS170HF

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by misc, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. Feb 25, 2011 at 1:46 PM
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    it almost seems like that would be the way to go...what if you just left it backwards? it wouldnt hinder anything would it?
     
  2. Feb 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM
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    No, I doubt it hinders anything but you may loose that "ram air" affect, and your fuel mileage gains. The guys around here just keep it backwards through the winter then turn it back around during the summer months.
     
  3. Feb 25, 2011 at 1:49 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    i think you'd get less of the "ram" effect and not see as good of mpgs, but i dont think it'd hurt anything.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    haha...same time
     
  5. Feb 25, 2011 at 2:01 PM
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    ^^ even posted at the same minute, guess I was quicker on the enter button. lol
     
  6. Feb 25, 2011 at 4:10 PM
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    I'm auto and my engine doesn't vibrate when warming up at all nor does it while moving. What RPM are you idling at when warming up?

    I was talking about it getting ripped off by the car wash.
    I drove mine through rain and 60 mph winds with no issues today, but maybe in dry light snow I might turn it around.

    Bill Burke drives with his backwards all the time :D Not kidding.



    For a good joke you could always tape someones snorkel shut :eek: after pouring down some sugar water :eek::eek:
     
  7. Feb 25, 2011 at 9:11 PM
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    Yea when I told my dad I was getting a snorkel he couldnt understand why I would do something that would create a funnel to my air intake
     
  8. Feb 25, 2011 at 10:40 PM
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    This would probably be some information you would want to get right from the manufacturer, but from their site:
    http://www.safarisnorkel.com/docs/product.htm

    "[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms."

    [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]That would tell me that a mechanical car wash should not be an issue, hell, even shooting a hose at it by mistake shouldn't be an issue. I didn't get one of these yet, so I haven't looked at the internals... but based on what I am reading it should be able to keep water out of the engine even if it gets in the ram air part.

    Here is a review:
    http://www.landroverweb.com/landrover/safari-snorkel-snow-and-rain-review/
    [/FONT]
     
  9. Feb 26, 2011 at 6:11 AM
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    I idle at 1200rpm at warm up. Hearing you have an auto as well I will be tearing the inner fender cover out to see what the hell is going on. Something is causing just need to figure it out.

    Good Link give me a bit of piece of mind. But looking at the snorkel hood I cannot figure out how it would separate them. Must be an affect of the air being forced into the snorkel. It must move snow and water to the weep hole on the side of the hood. That's all I can figure out for now. Just glad to know it should not be an issue. :)
     
  10. Feb 26, 2011 at 6:28 AM
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    Ive never had a problem as far as driving in the rain with the snorkel, You can watch the water coming out of the holes in he bottom on the top piece. I wouldnt use a carwash and I try to keep from spraying with the hose when I wash the truck. Only time ive turned it around is when theres snow. I dont know if snows goin to be a problem with it forward but I rather be safe then sorry.
     
  11. Feb 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM
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    Nice find John. I would only be concerned with the car wash ripping it off. I did a bunch of driving the other day in the rain and 70mph winds and didn't have any issues.

    I checked my idle yesterday, but after a long day of trail riding and longer night of boozing it up I forgot what I was at :eek:

    I would just make sure you have clearance for the snorkel and that your motor mounts are OK.

    Yea, Ill be turning mine around when it snows the light fluffy stuff.


    When I was out yesterday I put the truck through the paces on trail and didn't have any issues with vibes or anything and I was hitting the trails hard and fast.

    I did notice a slight gain in noise made by the snorkel when I jumped on the gas. Not sure about performance, but the truck did feel a little more peppy punching the gas from 40mph on. Maybe ram air affect maybe it's all in my head :notsure:
     
  12. Feb 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM
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    OK. Did some poking around yesterday and had my wife jump on the gas while I looked under the hood. the Engine barely moves. Even had her throw it in reverse, keep the brake on, and give it some gas to cause the drivetrain to move. It didn't. So I know all the motor mounts are good.

    So today I got supplies - Black Silicone, window flashing (not as cool as yours because I could not find anything without the Aluminum backing), and some new wheel well push pins to hold that plastic fender in place. After opening it up I had no loose nuts and I played around in the fender trying to find something loose. Actually the blue fender flare inserts moved the most so after getting all the flashing in place I topped each blue insert with some ATV to lock them in place. Siliconed around the snorkel itself on the outside (the backside close to the door takes a ton of silicone to fill) and placed flashing in the engine bay side of the opening to seal it off.

    Took it for a good drive after that and it seemed to be even quieter. No vibe issues or anything. So the real test will be in the morning when it is a full cold start.

    Thanks for the extra tips on the install and hopefully I will have this licked and can move on to the extra project. T case Skid Plate from ATO. :D
     
  13. Feb 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM
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    ***Update***

    Running smooth today. Must have just been loose parts rattling a bit and when I tacked everything down yesterday the problems went away. Now we will see what sort of fuel economy I can get out of it. :)
     
  14. Feb 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM
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    :cool:,Good to see you got everything worked out.
     
  15. Feb 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM
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    :thumbsup: Good to hear.
     
  16. Mar 6, 2011 at 6:49 AM
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    what are the rivets for? I cant find anything mentioning them in the install...
     
  17. Mar 6, 2011 at 7:14 AM
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    do you guys thing I should wait until I get the front (relentless) and rear (ato wrap around) bumpers to install the snorkel? I keep thinking it will look dorky without any of those. haha
     
  18. Mar 6, 2011 at 9:04 AM
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    Then you will have 3 big projects. I say knock the snorkel out now so you have less to do when the bumpers show up. Who cares what others think you know what you have planned and how it will look in the end.
     
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  20. Mar 6, 2011 at 9:37 AM
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    Extra parts. They aren't needed.
     

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