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Slide-in camper max weight?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Kestrel2013, Oct 18, 2022.

  1. Oct 18, 2022 at 3:36 PM
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    Kestrel2013

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    The safest answer is, “What ever the payload capacity is”

    That said, A leaf pack or add-a-leaf would help.
    Along with a proper brake adjustment and good brakes.
     
  3. Oct 18, 2022 at 9:58 PM
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    Great build you have at your link, for what you show, a add-a-leaf will help for empty weight but may be inadequate if you carry a lot of gear when you go camping. For that you may want to get air bags to adjust for times you have heavier loads. Guessing you’re close to 300 lbs of camper shell and plywood extra weight when empty which about the best you can hope from a good, 3 leaf add-a-leaf

    If you want to replace what you got with a slide in camper check out the FWC page, suggestions for how to carry 1100 - 1300 lbs in the bed. Not recommending you carry that much weight but people are doing it.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/four-wheel-camper-fwc-thread.520138/
     
  4. Oct 18, 2022 at 11:14 PM
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    Damn. That is one nice build you have there! Very impressed.

    Here is the problem with slide in campers:

    1) They either are way too heavy for a Tacoma and over time cause bed damage. Hell, even on HD trucks they can raise hell on them. I have owned one and will never again.
    2) If they are within a reasonable weight, there's not many amenities over a Wall Tent and cot and you still have to hang your ass off a log or use the strap method.
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    Sucks getting older, but the guys I go wheeling with all moved up to HD trucks, GN trailers, and campers. What we would do is take turns on who would pull the 14-15K lbs on the gooseneck and someone else would pull the camper. The others would bring 55 gallon drums of water on their trailers for showers and cooking/cleaning. Worked out pretty good for many years.

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    Some of them got a little carried away and towed crap like this with 3/4 tons....and had issues with tires blowing out.

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  5. Oct 19, 2022 at 5:01 AM
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    I know I am in the minority but I personally don't take payload numbers too seriously especially if you are "within reason" and make appropriate supporting modifications. With our trucks we don't have many "good" options. You go utilitarian and get a Go fast camper that weights less than like 600 lbs. Or get a cream of the crop Four Wheel Camper which can weigh anywhere from 900 to 1300 realistically. Without getting into the weeds too much, I've been running a loaded Four wheel camper (has a cassette toilet) for a couple years now. Definitely not one of the affordable options, its expensive for the square footage! But that isn't why I have one. Its small and overlandy, and i love it. I did a HD leaf pack from Dobinsons to support the weight. Tried bags first but wanted to know i'd be alright if i popped a bag, so i did the whole leaf pack too. Many Tacoma/FWC people run just bags and get by just fine. Yes I could have bought a half ton and thrown the camper in without worry, but most of my half ton friends STILL had to do bags, hauling the same camper. So they're hardly better off than me. They just have more power to get around but the 4.0 does a decent job. I am at 4640 empty and 6220 loaded up with 35 gallons water, cooler, gear.
     
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    Woh, this thing is awesome. Got pics of the inside? How much did it run you?
     
  7. Oct 19, 2022 at 5:09 AM
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    Like I said not cheap, 26k slightly used and that was before Covid destroyed the market and prices went up. They're hard to find used and buying new is a long wait. Its a commitment but I was convinced I had to at least try one so I went for it. These are the pics I have at the moment, my new phone with the fisheye would do a better job capturing the tiny space haha.
     
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    GFC is less than 300 lbs, SP is like ~350. Wedge campers are in their own league compared to slide-in's when it comes to allowing the user to operate with the limited GVWR of mid-sized trucks. Half ton trucks as well, since most people configure their half-tons with crew cab short boxes and not single cabs nowadays.

    that 700-800 lb weight difference is massive. But you have to make sure to manage the weight on other mods, particularly armor by making an honest assessment of what you'll be doing with the truck. Eventually building out a rock crawler isnt compatible with building out a camper. Same dilemma as building out a track car that you drive on the street.
     
  9. Oct 19, 2022 at 6:21 AM
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    ohh yessss
     
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Good. Good
     
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    Gotcha. Looks awesome, but maybe not for me. I think I'd either do a GFC or full trailer if I had money to burn. At least with the GFC you can still somewhat use the bed.
     
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    Good info - thanks all!
     
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    You might want to look at the FWC Project M, it’s the top half of what @Weissenheimer has without the bottom half so it attaches to bed like a normal camper shell so similar to a GFC but more room inside. Unfortunately you don’t get the stove, water heater or furnace because they normally mount in the bottom half - but that may be a plus for a do-it-yourself type person who wants to build what they want. Weights less and cost less than a full FWC and keeps your tailgate so you can still use your truck to haul what you could with a regular camper shell.
     
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    truckcampermagazine.com was super helpful when i started researching. start with the camper chooser to get an idea of what campers fit what trucks (just a rough guide, you still need to double check YOUR truck against each specific camper and its total build weight)
    https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/camper-chooser/
    and their campers buyers guide is super helpful with charts and things for weights and options of each model and brand
    https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/truck-campers-buyers-guide/

    this gives a step by step breakdown of how to fit a truck and camper
    https://www.truckcampermagazine.com/newbie-articles/match-truck-truck-camper/

    with a Tacoma you're going to be limited to a four wheel camper pop up
    Tundra will get you a few more options but you're still looking as a soft side pop up
    full size if you're serious about the camper or want a hard side
    basically - what's more important? the truck or the camper?
    i wanted a Tundra and nearly bought one but had a good heart to heart with myself and decided that the camper was more important and i'd find a truck that fit whatever camper i wanted.
    ended up with this. he's hefty but i love it.
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  17. Oct 21, 2022 at 9:55 AM
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    Much appreciated. Sounds like i should sell my entire rig and look to a larger truck...
     
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    do some research, visit a few local dealers and take a tour of some campers, note what you like or don't about each brand/model, and make a short list of features that you want to have in a camper.
    also consider the current market - campers of any variety are in high demand. truck campers tend to be the least popular variety so even harder to find. if you're buying new you could be waiting a year + for one to be built and delivered
    hard side or pop up?
    do you want a bathroom?
    single propane enough or are you taking longer trips that a double would be necessary?
    single battery?
    are you going with solar or do you want an onboard generator?
    seating?
    kitchen features?
    where are you storing it when you're not using it?
    solo trips? wife? doggo?

    i had started out thinking about a bumper tow camper and keeping my 4Runner but in the end i figured i could get to more places with the truck camper AND i wouldn't have to store the truck camper as it fits in my driveway, I would have had to pay to store a bumper tow camper. i did a ton of research on line, made an excel spreadsheet with various models and their specs, ranked them. about my made head explode looking at numbers. then i went and actually looked at a few campers at a dealer. threw out the spreadsheet and started over. the campers that i thought looked good based on weights and specs were awful once i actually set foot inside. that was when i knew that i needed to expand my camper search and ditch the idea of getting a tundra. bought the 3/4 ton chevy as it was a safe bet that most camper models would fit him. managed to find a deal on my camper right before everyone and their cousins freaked out and bought RVs as a way to avoid full lockdown with COVID. the camper i have has all the bells and whistles and pretty much maxs out my payload but i love it.

    driving it in windy conditions sucks ass. and i have to go about 5mph on most dirt roads. and i get MAYBE 9 mpg. but i have a 5 star hotel that i can take just about anywhere.
     
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    Thanks all for the feedback - much to think about, but it appears i will be selling this rig and going for a Tundra based slide in or pull behind capable of offroad-ish stuff.
     

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