LED LIGHTS PHOTOS

All he's saying is to take it with a grain of salt, and it's good advice. The plural of anecdote is not evidence and posts on a web forum aren't a single source of truth.

 

Have you considered the (however remote) possibility that some folks on the internet may actually know what they're talking about? And maybe some of those folks might actually be members in good standing here? And your qualifications to speak about automotive lighting are?

I try very hard not to engage in childish internet brawls, but knowing @crashnburn80 personally, I'll stand up for him any day of the week. Mike drop.

 

I never professed to be qualified to speak to automotive lighting....and since you are personal friends with this crash guy, ask him if he is: "( one of the)world's leading experts in automotive lighting (crashnburn80)" as you claim. I've read his stuff and take no issue with his observations and documentations, but, does it rise to the level of expertise you accredit him? It's your opinion expressed as "fact", with no basis for such.
Ps - I don't question Crash's academic credentials - BS from Western Wash. Univ., but his expertise seems to be limited to TW postings .....

 

Alpharex headlights have done me well, pricey as hell but worth it. Cali raised lightbar and Amazon fogs have done well too. Getting bajas for fogs and ditch lights next

 

I replaced all my 2013 Tacos internal and external halogen bulbs and fogs with LED from Amazon except my headlights. Turn signals/DRL I chose specifically brighter LED as they’re on all the time. I neglected LED headlights for my own reasons.Why?
There are engineers at Toyota paid pretty good money to design headlight sockets with optimal reflectivity for the design bulb. Mine came with halogen so when one burned out after 150K I replaced both the bulbs with Hella HP halogen bulbs from Amazon which work well, better definition, slightly whiter but not any brighter.
Win, win…internet confrontation notwithstanding.

Smokey

 

Your fogs are meant to run halogen bulbs as well.

 

OP still hasn't posted the beam pattern against the wall. Mine for reference

 

Blinded by the light
Revved up like a deuce
Another runner in the night

 

Can someone link to the "science" that proves a halogen bulb designed in the 1970s is better than a light emitting diode designed in the last 10 years?

What is the science involved? I feel like a lot of hate on LED lights is based on people putting them in housings not designed for them and they scatter all over...

Modern photography has all moved to LED. Street lights and traffic lights use LED (and often drop in replacements).

The fact that every modern car uses LEDs now should say a lot... And FWIW most electronics are manufactured in China now (or Taiwan if you want to be picky) so that's a bizarre argument against them.

Having light properly aimed and a sufficient anti glare (cutoff) is the biggest factor in any lighting setup regardless of what technology is actually making the light. I've been blinded by plenty of 100w halogen setups.

 

That is exactly the point. Guys running LEDs in halogen housings. Stupidity. I don’t think anyone here has an issue with LEDs in appropriate projectors.

 

In short, the problem with installing LED "bulbs" in a housing designed for a halogen bulb comes down to the shape of the light source. In a halogen bulb, one has an "orb" of light. The housing, reflector and lens are designed to optimize the distribution of that light. BTW, the light coming off that orb is pretty much the same strength no matter where it comes off the orb. The size and placement of the filament are critical to the proper operation of the system. And yes, all of those parts (bulb, housing, lens and reflector) are designed as a system.

LED "bulbs" on the other hand are pretty much all one or two LED chips set on opposite sides of a "blade" extending out from the base of the "bulb." Much has been advertised about how the latest LED bulbs have "solved the problem of glare" in early bulbs by "duplicating the placement of the LEDs with a halogen bulb filament." While this is actually true, what none of the bulbs have done is replicate the size and shape of the orb of light. You still have flat LED chips facing opposite directions instead of an orb. You still have those two light sources too far apart. Oh, and one has to "clock" an LED bulb to an exact position to minimize glare - something most folks either don't do or do incorrectly.

It basically comes down to one word that I used above - system. An LED is an excellent light source - in a system designed for it. If you look closely, you will find that exactly zero manufacturers install LED bulbs in housings designed for halogen bulbs at the factory. If simply swapping from a halogen to an LED bulb were indeed such a great (and inexpensive) way to give consumers the LED lighting they desire, don't you think somebody would have done it? When you install an LED bulb in a system designed for a halogen bulb, the system no longer works as designed.

 

my bad I misunderstood. yes, LEDs in halogen housings are a bad idea unless you just want really bright useless light everywhere.