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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by EL TACOROJO, Sep 17, 2010.

  1. Oct 23, 2022 at 9:01 AM
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    If you have any specific questions or want specific pics about the model I'm using, feel free to ask.

    Will be in the garage for a good portion of my morning.
     
  3. Oct 23, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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    You think a floor standing model is too big for the back of a 80 series Land Cruiser?
     
  4. Oct 23, 2022 at 10:41 AM
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    It might fit, diagnoally since the rear seats do fold up.

    I mean I have put in 6' sheets of 3/16" steel in there

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    The weight thing (loading and unloading) is the biggest issue though. With the few models that peaked my interest, they all had a large flat base.
     
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    I have a small garage anyway
     
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  6. Oct 24, 2022 at 12:40 PM
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    You should be able to take things apart to make it fit and easier to move.

    With the 3 bench Top Drill presses and the the Mag Drill I have no need for a floor Model even though I have enough room.

    Then I got the Milling Machine. i just need to wire it must be 5 years .
     
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  7. Oct 24, 2022 at 1:02 PM
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    Here are the cut parts for @velillen they turned out pretty decent.

    Having a bit of trouble with angularity. My cutter doesn't seem to like thicker iron.

    I'm maybe 80% happy with the way they turned out.

    I did learn a lot pushing my machine on thicker iron and asking to keep tight tolirances.PXL_20221024_133459977.jpg PXL_20221024_133601281.jpg
     
  8. Oct 24, 2022 at 1:04 PM
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    Thanks for this post. I've thought the same thing and wish there were a less expensive solution for repeatable and accurate bending at a price point between the two options you mention. The Baileigh is way too much $$ for most of us to rationalize but that is a deal for what it is.

    I have >$2,000 in a 50 ton HF press with 30" SWAG kit and heavy stock for arbor plates. Accurate and repeatable bends take some effort/attention/time with this setup but it gets the job done.

    A used Ironworker with a couple useful attachments might fall halfway in-between these two price points.
     
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  10. Oct 24, 2022 at 3:03 PM
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    Is it possible to shop the sheet metal work out to a local sheet metal shop if your not getting enough to invest in higher end tooling .

    I gave them the bending work they sent me the 1/2" plus welding jobs.

    It is a thought!
     
  11. Oct 24, 2022 at 7:48 PM
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    Eh, wouldn't recommend it unless you're absolutely pinching every penny.
     
  12. Oct 25, 2022 at 5:55 AM
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    I like my Titanium. But, I have the dual 110/220 version.
     
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    I've welded with someone's Titanium, and it's not to say anything is wrong with it. I liked it.

    For the price of that thing and only being 120v, you could just get a 220v from someone else.

    I know some people that wish they were on 220v.
     
  14. Oct 25, 2022 at 6:09 AM
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    Fair enough. I agree the 220v is a much better choice for most.
     
  15. Oct 25, 2022 at 6:27 AM
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    I just thought that was a miss print. I didn't even know there was a 120v multi process welder available.
     
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  16. Oct 25, 2022 at 6:47 AM
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    i wish someone could explain who makes this 220V machine I have never seen that manufacture.
     
  17. Oct 25, 2022 at 6:50 AM
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    I can not think 120VAC has much output.

    Maybe they got stuck with a bunch miss ordered ?

    Then it could be a Misprint not like it would be the first time.
     
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    I'm mostly looking and bending brackets and enclosures out of lighter gage material, and maybe bending <12" of 1/4" plate from time to time. So a 33 ton press would be about right for me. The killer part of this is the tooling. All the cnc benders use a standard type of tooling consisting of goosenecks, straight punches, etc etc, that can enable making deep u-channels and all kinds of stuff you can't do on a box/pan brake or a finger punch with straight punches.

    Swag offroad sells a couple punch options (hemming and gooseneck) and this may be where I end up. it just looks like the press doesn't open far enough to accommodate deeper tools (and I can't tell if the swag would take standard tools or not... looks close)

    I have looked at the iron workers and - unless I'm missing something - it doesn't look like they're really made for doing sheet metal work.

    I remember the first time I saw a big press brake in action - I was a very green engineer and had designed a custom bracket for my KTM to hold GPS, roll chart, etc... and a guy that had done lots of prototyping for our firm invited me down to his shop to bend this thing for me. It was sort of an accordion of folds and little tabs at odd angles. I made him flat patterns and a side views showing all the relative bend angles. He had a few different length stations with shallow gooseneck dies on a HUGE (10'?) press brake and he bent up my brackets in about 3 minutes. (and put a kink in his cigarette that he set on the die while bending. LOL)

    I found a couple pics! Yes it broke on my first big trip. LOL:

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  19. Oct 25, 2022 at 4:44 PM
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    Yota X Some say dresser, I say dryer.

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    That thing is so much nicer inside than my HF special! May have to pick up one at some point. I got my $100 or whatever it was outta the HF.

    Finally welded this today. But, may as well put on a fab page. Did a little mig/tig hybrid. Would have tig'd all but don't trust it like mig yet.
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    But these are my greatest fab accomplishments to date. Strength wise. Rolled my container w as much stress as possible through trees up hills w no prob.

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  20. Oct 25, 2022 at 4:48 PM
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    Those look great! I would rather have MIG welded spindles myself anyways.
     
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