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Axle Gear Ratios

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ConantTaco, Jun 9, 2021.

  1. May 14, 2022 at 7:42 AM
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    tonered

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    Sorry! I missed this tag. I have not heard of it.

    @Jeff Lange would be da man here.

    Can you post a pic of you door sticker? If so, you might want to edit out the VIN.
     
  2. May 14, 2022 at 9:24 AM
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    All V6 autos have 3.91, wheelbase doesn’t matter.

    Jeff
     
  3. Nov 14, 2022 at 7:34 PM
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    I do think that the long bed has a higher gear ratio because my truck, which is a 2021 long bed does not gear hunt and will hold 6th gear unless I come to a decent size hill. At 75, I am running about 1900 rpm. I wanted to also share a photo of my new wheels and tires. The wheel are RRW 's and the tires are the Hankook Dynapro at2 Xtreme. They are 17"20221102_160054.jpg
     
  4. Nov 14, 2022 at 8:14 PM
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    The Manual Transmission Models are the only ones with 4.30's.
     
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  5. Nov 14, 2022 at 8:28 PM
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    315/75/16, 6in modded RC lift,Anderson Engineering manifold spacer,K&N air intake, URD YPipe, stock exhaust ,16" method nv305 wheels, AFE throttle body spacer, vf Tune program, JTL 3.0 Oil catch can x2, rear cat delete
    Those same ratios are linked in my signature.

    From my grimjeeper form:





    From all of that, I'm not sure what the issue is:
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    With me on 315/75/16s stock gears and at 65mph I'm in 6th gear like 1480 rpms edit at transmission


    Not sure what the hell is going on with this message tried quoting and it's being dumb
     
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    Good information here. Any chance you data on the torque converter stall torque ratio and absorption curves?
     
  7. Nov 15, 2022 at 7:51 AM
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    The chance of me having that data for a Tacoma stands at 0%
     
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  8. Nov 15, 2022 at 8:04 AM
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    General rule of thumb is 2:1

    Most are 1.8-2.5
     
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  9. Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM
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    And for the Tacoma? And Tacoma absorption curves?

    I’ve seen the generic info.
     
  10. Nov 15, 2022 at 2:44 PM
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    2.7L auto is 4.3 as well.
     
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    2.7L is 2.05
    3.5L is 1.85

    It doesn't.

    There are only 2 ratios used on the 2016-2023 Tacoma: 3.91 and 4.30.

    3.91 is used for 2.7L Manual and 3.5L Auto
    4.30 is used for 2.7L Auto and 3.5L Manual

    There are no other configuration options for differential ratio.

    Jeff
     
  12. Nov 15, 2022 at 8:39 PM
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    Hm, I always thought 4 cyl, 5MT came with 4.30 rear end. Learned something new!
     
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    Thanks anyway, I suspected the absorption curves might be proprietary but hoped the total stall torque ratio would make good marketing material they might publish.
     
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    Any ideas why there is a different axle code between trims?
     
  15. Nov 15, 2022 at 9:48 PM
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    Different sized diameter rear diffs.
     
  16. Nov 16, 2022 at 6:45 AM
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    On ATs, 2017+ SR5 has A04A .There are 2021 SR5 with A07A.
    There are 2017, 18 Sports with A04A.
    Every axle code reference point 04 to 3.72.
    07=3.9
     
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  17. Nov 16, 2022 at 3:40 PM
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    Following up on this, since it all seems a tad odd... I looked into things and have determined that the axle code for 2016-2023 Tacomas is basically useless. It means nothing.

    There are trucks with A07A (e.g., 3TMAZ5CN0MM149039) and A04A (e.g., 3TMCZ5AN5KM240400) that have the same differential (41110-04130, 3.91 8.0 in Open), there are other trucks that also have A07A (e.g., 3TYCZ5AN0MT015695) but have different sized differentials with different gearing (41110-0K600, 4.30 8.8 in Open).

    I also found a couple of Tacomas that didn't even have an axle code listed on the data tag (e.g., 5TFCZ5AN0MX269073, 5TFAX5GN4LX172994).

    I thought maybe it was factory or year or something, but then you get trucks that were made at the same factory in the same year that use different formats (e.g., 3TYCZ5AN5MT043265 and 3TYCZ5AN7MT049505 are both 2021s made in Guanajuato with 4.30 8.8" diffs, one with axle code A07A - open diff, one with B07B - locking diff).

    So my advice to anyone wanting to know what differential their 2016-2023 Tacoma has is to NOT use the axle code. I have examples of trucks with 8.8" diffs being A or B. I have examples of trucks with 3.91 and 4.30 gearing having 04, 06, and 07 codes. I have examples of trucks with no axle code. It's a complete crap shoot.

    There may be some rhyme or reason to if it you really look into it, like for this package made at this factory in this year, A04A means this... but the information you would need to know to know what the axle code means is more than enough to already know which differential it has, so... worthless.

    Very un-Toyota of Toyota on this one.

    Jeff
     
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