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Gladiator or Tacoma, Help Me Decide!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by OsiViper, Nov 20, 2022.

  1. Nov 22, 2022 at 7:29 AM
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    greengs

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    Yeah there were many many threads on here in 2016 and 2017 when this was happening and people were basically calling out CR even though there truly were many issues when the 3rd gen came out. FFWD to today and I believe it's back up in rankings right at the top somewhere.
     
  2. Nov 22, 2022 at 7:42 AM
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    Read CR on tacoma. They have always talked about the tacoma like it was the red headed step child. A bonus is they just raised the reliability rating up to 4/5 for 2023.
    On a side note they now, no longer recommend the 2022/23 Tundra and dropped its rating to 2/5.
     
  3. Nov 22, 2022 at 7:55 AM
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    There's a dealer that takes stock jeeps over the rubicon every year as a publicity stunt, or at least they used to. Part of the "Jeep Rubicon" schtick is that it is capable of doing the rubicon. Has 33" tires, decent shocks, lockers etc.
     
  4. Nov 22, 2022 at 7:58 AM
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    Xero

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    You can drag a stock rubi over it. They aren’t going to hardline everything and their skids/sliders are gonna get a workout. There’s videos of modest built tacos going over it. Same thing though alot of skids, sliders, bypasses and some winching.
     
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  5. Nov 22, 2022 at 8:43 AM
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    I'll just throw my thoughts into this, as I was debating in a similar fashion between a 4 Runner, and Wrangler Unlimited. (This was in 2013, but the same applied to my 2019 Wrangler purchase)

    Reliability was a non issue. Every Tacoma I have had, has had its issues, and no more or less than any other vehicle I have owned, except for my Dodge truck.....fuck that thing. It was a POS.

    Drivetrain:
    Both have a proven drive train. 4Runner has more Torgue, but less HP. The Wrangler had SFA vs. The 4R IFS. IFS is much better on road, or on faster off road trails, while an SFA is better in technical and slower paced trails. (stock vs. stock). The Wrangler auto transmission was rated to a higher torque load, but drove like an Omish Wagon on the street. Wrangler had F/R lockers, skids, 4:1 TC, 4:10 gearing, and Sliders stock.

    +1 Wrangler

    Interior comfort:
    The 4R was much more comfortable than the Wrangler, but the Wrangler wasn't far off. Wind noise in the Wrangler was much higher that the 4R. Cargo capacity seemed pretty even, but the rear seat ingress of the Wrangler was awkward due to the rear door shape. The audio system in the 4R beat out the Wrangler (new jeeps are much better now), and the climate control seemed about even, with the exception that the Wrangler heater would get HOT. REALLY HOT. Perfect for arctic life, but moot for somone in AZ.

    +1 4Runner

    Work Life:
    The 4Runner kills the Wrangler in towing capacity, but towing anything other than a porta-potty in a solid axel short wheelbase vehicle is a recipe for excitement. (Actually not THAT bad, but I wouldn't tow anything over 4500 lbs in a wrangler). Interior controls seemed a bit easier to manipulate in the 4Runner than the Wrangler. Wrangler had In Floor drains for water, and easily removed carpeting. Cargo was more easily loaded into the 4Runner, as the roll bars in the Wrangler impeded larger items being loaded into it. I could still fit a 21 gallon vertical air compressor into both, layed on its side.

    Draw

    Misc. Fun Items:
    Both have insane aftermarket support. Both have good local communities, with the nod going towards the 4Runner groups. While the 4Runner community is welcoming to folks that never off road, only hit dirt roads, or try and climb whatever is in their way, the Wrangler community is filled with Bed Bath and Beyond folks OR crawl the largest rock on the planet folks. Not much in the middle.

    +1 4Runner

    Widgets:
    While the 4Runner was a "cut and dry" capable SUV, the Wrangler has an easily removable 3 peice hard top (or soft top). Windshield folds down, doors come off, etc. While only the top removal appealed to me, the fact that the first 4 chapters of the owners manual were solely on how to take shit off the vehicle impressed me.

    +1 Wrangler - this may vary by desires

    After Sale Support:
    Of the many Toyotas I have owned, dam near anytime warranty work was needed, it seemed the common denier by the dealer was "off road abuse". This excuse was given to me once simply due to a little mud being found on the underside of my truck. My first outing in my Wrangler, I smashed my Evap Canister on a rock. Went to the dealer the next week to buy a replacement. While there, the service guy said "that shouldn't have happened. It's meant to be off road..". He asked for the keys so he could have a tech look at it, and I agreed after telling him it was MY fault, not the vehicles. Thwy replaced the Evap Canister, and installed a new, thicker, skid plate under it.

    +1 Wrangler.

    In short, "to each their own ". Buy what you feel will give you the most enjoyment.


    PS:
    In high winds or cross winds on the highway, the Wrangler is horrifying. The 4Runner barely notices them.
     
  6. Nov 22, 2022 at 9:57 AM
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    I wish this was the case. I haven't had a personal vehicle for the last 5 years, have just been relying on a company truck to get around. I have been saving up every month for the last 5 years for a vehicle.
    And I couldn't care less about an Instagram offroad overlander... I don't even use Instagram lol. I just want a functional offroad/overlanding vehicle I can go exploring with, go out camping, go see rarely explored trails off the beaten path. And reliability is important to me as well, because 99% of the time I will be out there alone.
     
  7. Nov 22, 2022 at 10:03 AM
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    My buddy has a gladiator rubicon, it’s been good for him, minimal effort to run 37s. Whatever truck you pick up grab a Garmin in reach for when your in the middle of nowhere and you need backup.
     
  8. Nov 22, 2022 at 10:12 AM
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    Didn't read the thread. My only suggestion is that if you are inexperienced in auto mechanics, buy the Jeep. You will learn a lot. Otherwise, get a Tacoma.
     
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  9. Nov 24, 2022 at 2:03 PM
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    Well, I put the deposit down on the Tacoma the dealer has coming. I'm hoping maybe they'll let me take off a couple of the add-ons (predator steps, skid plate, mud flaps, etc.) but if not I guess I'll just sell em after the fact.
     
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  10. Nov 24, 2022 at 2:28 PM
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    Awesome. Im looking forward to seeing your build. I keep those parts and sell them to fund your build.
     
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  11. Nov 25, 2022 at 2:37 AM
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    For what it’s worth, the wife and I have had 15 Jeeps between us, including a Gladiator Rubicon. The newer Fiat Jeeps are way up in price, and down in quality. If you had issues with your JK, just wait till you experience a JL/JT.

    For this reason, the wife has a deposit on a new 4Runner, and I am driving a Lexus, considering a new Tacoma.

    Jeeps are very capable, and easy to mod for big tires, but our wheeling has become more moderate to scenic.

    Here is a pic of the wifey’s Gladiator on 37’s. Good luck with your decision.


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    :EDIT: I should have read the entire thread, lol. Congrats on your Tacoma!
     
  12. Nov 25, 2022 at 4:45 AM
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    You chose wisely. Congrats!
     
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  13. Oct 28, 2023 at 2:55 PM
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    If you plan on crawling. Gladiator.
    If you plan on overlanding Tacoma.
    If you plan on towing Full size pickup.
    Skip the 4runner and buy a GX.

    If you like walking buy a Ford….JK….I had to. The new Bronco is sweet.
     
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  14. Oct 28, 2023 at 3:13 PM
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    After owning one dodge pickup and having 3 Chrysler work vehicles I'll never own another. I you ditch it before it hits 50K you're probably ok.
     
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