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3rd gen shocks, 2nd gen springs

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Michigan, Dec 20, 2022.

  1. Dec 20, 2022 at 9:22 AM
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    First post, yay! Just bought a 2010 w/ 145k miles and am obsessed! Stock suspension is jumpy when it gets bumpy so I bought a set of 3rd gen front and rear shocks w/out coils.

    Planning to swap my existing 2nd gen coil springs and top hats onto the 3rd gen OR shocks.

    I don’t off-road but like the aesthetics of a 'slight' lift. I'm primarily trying to improve handling and ride quality on a budget...

    I see it posted that 3rd gen springs are around 710 lbs and 2nd gen are 540 lbs?

    Curious what kind or ride I should expect with the stock coils and 3rd gen OR shocks front and rear. Are there any issues with this setup?
    Would different coils or leaf springs improve handling / ride quality by a noticeable margin?

    Thanks for your feedback!

     
  2. Dec 20, 2022 at 9:26 AM
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    I doubt there will be much of a change in ride from the potentially if any valving changes of the shocks, but you will not get any lift if you use the stock 2nd gen coils.
     
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    expect a waste of time and money for barely any benefit.

    6112/5160 is the minimum starting point for improvement of these trucks.
     
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    Minimum... no... new shocks OEM are going to be an improvement over old wornout shocks. Even the 4600's from bilstein are an improvement over the OEM shocks (TRD OR blue and yellows are NOT 4600s btw)
     
  5. Dec 20, 2022 at 1:47 PM
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    I did that. They sucked. I went from stock, to 4600, then 5100, then current 6112/5160 which is still not ideal, and pencil thin compared to a real shock.
    But you’re more than welcome to learn it the hard way it’s a free country.

    6112/5160 is how Toyota marketing department came up with the idea of selling a 15yo 4Runner for $70k because it has some shinies

    I don’t have an extra $3k+ sitting around but if I did, I’d be looking at longer rear shocks with hammer hangers, and something like Fox adjustable front/rear

    At this point OP would probably benefit from finding a set of ~$300 used Icon RXT and configuring to his liking due to the shell
    which, if higher, 4600 would probably not work with
     
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    LOL you realize that 99% of the tacomas on the road dont get used to the point of needing rebuildable fancy shocks that need extended travel etc.

    Your distaste of 5100's definitely couldnt of been using 3rd gen lift OME 887 coils on 2nd gen valved 5100's. Nope definitely not.

    Also kinda funny telling people the minimum for upgraded suspension is 6112/5160's when not long ago you wanted to "live in a truck to save money".

    But hey, you do you its a free country you can burn your money however you wish.
     
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    I ran 4600 and 5100 with stock spring, mild lift spring, and later 887.

    you have a good point though if I lived in my truck I could probably get the Fox and stuff for better ride
     
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    New 4600s definitely an improvement for me at 125k mi. Add air bags also to help my tired leafs
     
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    Did the same on mine. I noticed an improvement but thats my old shocks were the originals at 227k miles so they were extremely worn out. If I could do it over I would've splurged and got nicer shocks and new springs
     
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    Bumping, long overdue! Can anyone help me confirm if the stock gen 2 front coil springs / top hats will fit the gen 3 front shocks? Just looking to replace worn out equipment. Thank you!
     
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    Hello! As mentioned from some months back, I bought a set of 3rd gen take offs, shocks only, without coil springs.
    I am now reconsidering my suspension update to replace the coils springs, and possibly the rear leaf springs, while using the stock shocks i already have.
    I have around $600 to put into it but most of the springs I am looking at seem to lift the truck and I am concerned that the lift with not be compatible with the stock 3rd gen shocks.

    Does anyone have any recommended coils and leafs that are compatible with the stock 3rd gen shocks?

    I have a topper, and occasionally haul a loaded trailer, but no extra weight up front. Not looking for off road performance.

    Should I just replace with stock OEM coil springs?
    If so, any recommendations on which leafs would be best suited or would the 3rd gen OEM replacements also fit my 2010 and be compatible with the stock 3rd gen shocks, on a 2nd gen?

    Thanks for your feedback!

    Ashton
     
  12. Mar 9, 2024 at 5:52 AM
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    I would have recommended buying 3rd Gen Off-road take-offs that were completely assembled with the 3rd Gen coils, easier to install with an improved ride. However it look like you have already bought the shocks. I’d recommend buying 3rd Gen coils for the 3rd Gen shocks.
     

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