3rd Gen 2022 Tacoma 2.7 - don't believe the hype

Probably due to fuel economy restrictions. EPA estimates for automatics get higher MPGs.

 

I doubt that. Generally manuals will get better fuel economy given the dear ratios are the same.

 

i wouldn't run it if I didn't feel like it was worth it. My range went from 292 to 396 after switching from 87 to 91 (distance to empty calculation). I know that's not an accurate measurement but I routinely get a lot better MPGs on my drive home to and from work (hand calculated).

but that's not the reason i started using 91. the engine feels like it has more power and doesn't hunt for gears as much. Many people are missing out when they do the whole "toyota says to use 87 only" stance.

 

I referring to the the 2023 EPA estimates for Tacomas. reference at https://www.fueleconomy.gov
3.5/Auto 18/22
3.5/Manual 17/21

 

When the 4 banger MT was available in 2016 and 2017 both the AT and MT had an equal overall EPA rating of 20 MPG.

 

Hah, just checked the same thing. The V6 also had 20mpg overall with the auto.

 

And we have guys on TW with 33's and skids saying they get mid-20's with the 2.7. Maybe they drive downhill both ways...

 

Yeah, but were the final axle gear ratios the same? If not, its the reason the auto gets the same fuel economy.

 

The gear ratios in most vehicles are built around the EPA testing parameters. The cyle is very particular and nuanced. In the past, manuals got better real world economy, but they are now pretty much on par, especially as we move away from 3 and 4 speed autos. Due to torque multiplication at low rpm, automatics can have a taller final drive ratio.

 

I love my 2.7 3rd gen. just wanted to say that putting on the LCE headers was a major improvement. I live in a more hilly area and I almost decided to get rid of the truck because of all the gear hunting it would do on the hills. the headers help a ton to stay in gear, didnt fully solve the problem but enough for me to have a way more comfortable drive. im going to get it tuned too and im assuming it will be an even more comfy ride. has anyone tuned their 2.7?

 

hype is usually an overselling of something to be better than it really is. which is what i would consider this thread lol.

 

LCE header is the best improvement hands down for this engine. Next step is a turbo. Lighter rims and tires are probably your best bet to improve performance short of that.

 

yeah def not the best word to be used by OP haha but to clear it up for people I think he meant that there are a ton of people hyping up their opinion the 2.7 is completely undrivable. I think they misunderstand the 2.7, it is for a different kind of person. for example, if youre going to build an overland rig where the rig has 1,000-1,500lbs of extra weight then yeah the 2.7 is not an option. If you use the truck as a basic work truck, light offroading, and daily driving it is perfect. americans especially, are somehow automatically inclined to buy the biggest engine possible without considering what they are going to do with it. this thread is to clear the air from those kinds of people who are making other people skeptical of buying a perfectly fine truck. if you are building big rig with huge amounts of weight, if you are a more aggressive driver, and if you are going to do more towing then go with the v6. otherwise the 2.7L is a great choice.

 

I wish there was a turbo kit for it. there are none that I am aware of but I'm assuming it's not too hard to build one considering you are keeping the psi under 6.

 

When I see this thread title I think you shouldn't believe the hype of the 2.7. Like you shouldn't believe all the good things you hear about it.

I would have gotten the 4.0 V6 in my truck had that been an option. I didn't get the 5spd manual, and that was an option. I would have broke something by now had I gotten the 5spd.

 

First toyota was a 1984 extra cab 4x4 4cyl 5 speed that I bought new back in the day. That started a long history with tacomas before that's what folks called them, and I've had more than I care to count in between. I've owned a 19 OR with all the bells and whistles and sold it after 6 months. And bought a 15 extended cab 4 cyl 5 speed 4x4. Bare bones as they come with 99000 miles. Have drove it for 3 years and happy as can be, guess I'm just a simple old man. Point is not everyone needs or wants 6cyl

 

i have no reason to doubt the durability of the 2.7. why do you think you shouldn't believe that?

 

I only wanted the V6 because it was the larger motor and made more power. 2.7 is plenty durable.

 

that's true but no one here is claiming the 2.7 is more powerful

 

I like to use the claw style oil wrench that goes on a ratchet.