4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

This is more about fleecing tax payer pockets into something they control and want to get their hands on, than about the environment.
No.2 says it all, they see stupid on our faces, I see favoritism and kickbacks

"Two recent developments will speed up the world’s transition to all-electric cars … and the demise of automobile/light vehicle internal combustion engines (ICE).

1. At the recent COP 26 conference in Glasgow, more than 100 entities signed the Glasgow Accord on Zero Emissions Vehicles to phase out ICE vehicles by 2035. Signatories included Ford and General Motors. Canada and the U.K. signed on, along with California, New York, Washington State, and the City of Dallas.
2. The recently enacted $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill in the U.S. includes $7.5 billion in funding for electric vehicle (EV) charging stations. The goal is to have 500,000 stations nationwide by 2030. We have roughly 100,000 at this time."

https://futuristspeaker.com/technology-trends/the-end-of-the-internal-combustion-engine/

 

That thing is just a Hilux.

 

Yet, another fine example of Conspicuous Consumption!

 

That's just a recolored truck revealed in 2021 by Toyota most likely what it will look like, and the green is a Tundra with a Tacoma tailgate. Any Photoshop can do those.

 

All hail the snail

 

This is the new 2023 Toyota Hilux. I dont think the Tacoma will look just like this but that grille does have some new Tundra influences imo.

https://youtu.be/mvu_yd6aV8U

 

The boogeyman to way too many people in the thread. The scariest picture you can post on this forum, right here.

 

2 metal wheels connected by a shaft ! Imagine the complexity

 

Brand new for the 1962 Chevrolet Corvair Monza and Oldsmobile Jetfire! But whatever, no V8, no care, right?

 

It will be more powerful than the 6cyl, faster, and out tow a V6 all with better MPG.

 

Agreed; I've had five turbocharged cars over the years, all of them made it well over the 100,000 mile threshold and never once had an issue with them. In my case, assuming the Gen 4 has looks I can learn to live with (still in doubt here), and assuming a manual transmission is made available (I'm thinking pretty unlikely), I'd have no problem upgrading my 2022 Tacoma for the new generation.

 

Turbos today aren't the turbos of old that many might think they are.

 

Yeah, and even the turbos of old were pretty darn good; I bought my first turbocharged car in 1985 and got something like 150,000 miles out of it without a single engine/turbo related issue.

 

There should one thread for legitimate news about the 4th gen and another separate thread for bitching about turbos.

 

And another thread for people to repost unofficial renderings and complain about the Tundra looks

 

Between complaining about the aesthetics of a vehicle that someone drew on MSPaint as if it's an official Toyota press release and whining about avacado-toast-eating beatnicks inventing the turbocharged engine, where else am I supposed to get my weekly laughs?

 

There are a few folk here who seem to have a vested interested in turbos. Perhaps they work in the turbo supply chain, I get that.

But these folk are trying to oversimplify all the inner working and complexities of turbos and cost that are gonna raise prices and require an arm and a leg of $$ to R&R these systems. All this top of everything else we consumers are faced with once the warranty is ended.

And there’s also the matter of diminished re-sale values for most of us as a result of these added complexities.

Please don’t get me wrong, I love turbos, when someone else is footing the bill lol!

"In order to handle speeds of up to 200,000 rpm, the turbine shaft must be supported very carefully. Most bearings would explode at speeds like this, so most turbochargers use a fluid or hydrodynamic bearing. This type of bearing supports the shaft on a thin layer of oil that is constantly pumped around the shaft. This serves two purposes: It cools the shaft and some of the other turbocharger parts, and it allows the shaft to spin without much friction.

But you can have too much boost. With air being pumped into the cylinders under pressure by the turbocharger, and then being further compressed by the piston, there is more danger of knock. Knocking happens because as you compress air, the temperature of the air increases. The temperature may increase enough to ignite the fuel before the spark plug fires. Cars with turbochargers often need to run on higher octane fuel to avoid knock. If the boost pressure is really high, the compression ratio of the engine may have to be reduced to avoid knocking.

The turbo system may also use an intercooler between the turbocharger and the cylinder. This cools the air before it reaches the combustion chamber, reducing the possibility of knock.
There are many trade-offs involved in designing a turbocharger for an engine."

 

Lots of half-truths in your post, not sure where you got that information from, but your post does nothing helpful, either for the anti-turbo or the pro-turbo crowd. The simple fact is, a modern turbo set up has a fraction of the complexity of say, a 4-Speed automatic transmission from 30 years ago; like it or don't, believe it or not, a properly designed modern turbocharged engine is a pretty simple set up.

 

Clearly your’re a shill for Big Turbo.