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Recovery Mod Help

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by hafjell, Jan 9, 2023.

  1. Jan 9, 2023 at 3:06 PM
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    hafjell

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    Sorry if this has been covered. Getting lots of conflicting advice.

    I do not want to spend a lot of money or change the look of the truck unnecessarily. I'm looking for simple and stealth recovery points.

    Do these seem like the simplest options that are still reliable?

    Rear from the trailer hitch. I would cover the hitch and stow the D-ring under the back seats until needed.
    Front ARB It's red so you know it's good.

    Am I missing any obvious options? Would these allow me to rescue and be rescued with something like this ARB dynamic recovery strap?
     
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  2. Jan 9, 2023 at 3:16 PM
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    Bishop84

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    Just need another d ring to pair with the rope and you’re good.

    I’d start with a standard recovery strap not kinetic. 3” or 4” rated for around 30,000lb + I like smittybilt yellow.
     
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  3. Jan 9, 2023 at 3:25 PM
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  4. Jan 9, 2023 at 3:30 PM
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    I also like to use soft shackles when possible. They float and if something leads to them flying thru the air I like them better than bow shackles.

    Good to have both if possible.
     
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  5. Jan 9, 2023 at 3:30 PM
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    Learn a lot about recoveries and how to properly recover before buying anything. There are a lot of YouTube videos and every overland and off-roading rally I’ve been to has held recovery classes. Take them. Improper recoveries can kill someone and destroy vehicles very quickly. Just happened a few months ago where someone was improperly using recovery gear and a guy was unfortunately killed due to negligence. Once you know how to properly use the equipment, then buy what you want/need. Recovery points, soft shackles, “D” rings, kinetic rope, tow straps, chains, receiver shackles, winches, snatch blocks, energy absorbing blankets, synthetic rope, cable, traction boards, gloves…the list goes on of gear to choose from. Please educate yourself and then purchase.
     
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  6. Jan 9, 2023 at 4:49 PM
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    +1.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3BkeeXlIo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rHvQykNt2M


    i keep some soft shackles and a kinetic rope in the truck, the other car has a standard tow strap in it. neither is wrong, but the biggest mistake i and others have made in the past is to best understand the limitations of the gear. backing up and 'getting a better run at it' is the absolute worst possible scenario.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2023 at 6:50 PM
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    Taco X

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    I was about to strongly disagree. But it seems that recommendation is nylon, so it's kinetic and won't likely kill anyone
     
  8. Jan 9, 2023 at 6:57 PM
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    i'm curious to hear your reasons for a standard strap over a kinetic strap. strap load simplicity?
     
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    Yes, keep it simple, no furious recoveries, just simple pulls.

    Just for starting. Most of the time you just need a heavy strap to pull. I've only really offroaded maybe 15-20 times in my life, but I've only need a kinetic strap for mud once. Most of the other times were standard straight forward pulls with winches and straps.

    I always associate the stretch recovery to mud and sand, we don't have a lot of it up here and I assume most starters should avoid both.
     
  10. Jan 9, 2023 at 8:00 PM
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    As I wouldn’t really know the breaking points of any straps or other vehicle parts, I wouldn’t do any type of running start recoveries, kinetic straps or not…
     
  11. Jan 25, 2023 at 9:20 AM
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    Glad I stumbled upon this thread. Learned something new and new fear unlocked.
     
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    My dad always told me with the bow shackles you hand tight then back it off a quarter turn. Less likely to break as it allows the shackle to flex like it’s supposed to. Not sure how true that is but I can confirm that I’ve never seen one break even when ripping stumps out of the ground with a 78 f150 ranger and a logging chain…
     
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  13. Jan 25, 2023 at 9:44 AM
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    Ha! Me too.
     
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  14. Jan 25, 2023 at 9:49 AM
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    I have one of those and only put it on when I'm off-roading or when someone needs help. I reading pulling (reversing) from the front is not good on the transmission but not 100% sure.

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  15. Jan 25, 2023 at 10:14 AM
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    Thanks for the confirmation and for the advice. Presumably the ARB recovery point still good for recovery of my vehicle.
     
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  16. Jan 25, 2023 at 10:15 AM
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    Yes but the truck already has factory hook (i think passenger side) and one tie down point (driver side) in the front already.
     
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    Removed some stuff, added some stuff.
    I would never yank on any recovery point honestly. But that’s just me. Kinetics scare the shit outta me
     
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  18. Jan 25, 2023 at 10:25 AM
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    Reverse pulling is not good on the ring and pinion. The gears are strongest going forward, weakest in reverse.
     
  19. Jan 25, 2023 at 10:33 AM
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    Doubtful in most recoveries that the shackle is the weak link. More often a weak recovery point on the vehicle or strap/rope.

    towing a vehicle, regular strap or chain, recovering a vehicle, dynamic strap/rope
     
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    I came across this too when doing research. The weakest part of the recovery should be the strap so that I can break off without damaging the vehicles or possibly killing someone outside the vehicles.

    the Arb straps are good and give you enough “stretch” instead of the excessive kinetic ropes. You should also have some kind of dampener or weight bag in the middle of the strap just in case one end breaks off. ARB has great recovery videos when compared to Rhino USA stuff. Watch some videos of professional tow/recovery companies rip apart Rhino USA.

    You honestly don’t need more than the front stock recovery points. The manufacturer does tons more research and development on them vs other companies. Those stock points are more than enough and the trailer hitch adapter is also a great recovery point. Just get a good strap that’s backed back actual product testing and development and you’re good to go.
     
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