Is Delphi oem for toyota?

The problem is the Delphi pump and housing isn’t a $500 part. It’s around $200 and not OEM as requested.

They made over $600 in labor for a 2 hour job.

 

My vendor shows a Delphi complete assembly at 299$ wholesale. They mark it up 40% and it becomes 500$

Most shops aren't searching rock auto and random internet vendors for parts. They go with local wholesale suppliers that are stocked up and ship stuff same day. Like multiple delivery runs every day from a warehouse. The flow of work in and out of the shop is too important to depend on Amazon and FedEx.

 

The parts that are built for Toyota that go in the vehicles on the assemble line and to the dealer parts dept are built to Toyotas specs. The parts that got to independent shops although made by the same manufacturer are not built to Toyotas specs. Hence if the part did not come from a dealer in a Toyota box it’s not built to the same specs. Ie the Delphi pump at Autozone is not the same Delphi pump at the Toyota dealer.

 

Yep that's the difference between OEM (original equip manufacturer) and OES (original equip supplier)

 

Toyotas specs these days are designed to cut as much costs as possible, and they have been since the 2010's given how apparently cheap they look and feel now. I am pretty convinced that they have these parts built and designed with a timed and planned obsolescence in mind given the amount of uncharacteristic failures that their parts have nowadays.

"Oh sorry sir, it appears your fuel pump on your Toyota has failed."

"What? It's only got 80,000 miles on it!!"

"Oh sorry sir, it appears your alternator is starting to fail."

"What? It's only got 90,000 miles on it!"

These stories are directly applicable to my rig and some of the unusual failures I had on mine over the course of my time of ownership with it.

If you look at the size of the fuel pump on these rigs when you take apart the fuel pump module you'll be just as appalled as I was and even be shocked as to how the little POS is capable of running anything past a 2 cylinder lawn mower engine.

 

When a customer asks for an OEM part for a Toyota , where do you buy the part from?

 

Most stuff in this thread that's been mentioned is correct. Delphi has been an OE supplier for Toyota factories, most frequently vehicles related to NUMMI, a joint-venture plant run by Toyota and GM from the early 1980's until 2009.

For the time period that's relevant here, the Pontiac Vibe, Toyota Corolla, and Toyota Tacoma were built at NUMMI. The Tacoma uses a Delphi A/C system which shares some parts with the Pontiac Vibe. The Toyota Corolla and related Matrix used Delphi engine ECU's from 2005-2008.

All ECU's in 2005-2008 Corollas, Matrixes, and Vibes were recalled and replaced, sometimes a couple of times. There are several uncharacteristic failures that have occurred in the Delphi A/C system in the Tacoma, notably the resistors frying. These are now replaced with Denso units.

But to the specific part in question here, no Delphi is not the OEM for the fuel pump in any Tacomas. They are Denso units.

Jeff

 

The dealer or my vendor if they have the actual OES part (actually comes in a box marked toyota). Dealers only give me a 20% discount though so I explain why the cost after markup can be more than expected.

Not trying to argue but I also don't let customers dictate what parts go on the vehicle. I decide based on price, availability and reliability. I also don't install customer supplied parts or throw a part at a car that the customer "diagnosed himself "

If a car comes in no-start, customer pays me an hour for troubleshooting or I don't touch it. If they want to "just try some spark plugs first" they can go somewhere else

 

I can see your points, and totally understand.

However, he asked for OEM parts to be used. The Delphi pump didn’t come in a Toyota box. If they had an issue with that request, they should be upfront about it.

 

Interesting read about the NUMMI stuff. Saw a Watch Wes Work video a while back working on a Pontiac Vibe, the PS reservoir was an exact copy of the Toyota reservoir which makes sense now

 

Toyota, Aisin and Chevrolet have been working with each other since at least the introduction of the RA60 series transmission. They stuck the RA60 in a Camero about the same time Toyota dropped it in the Tacoma.

 

Yeah, GM has used a few Aisin transmissions, the AY6 was first used in production in the Holden Commodore before being used in the Camaro and the CTS. Toyota started using it in the Tacoma (RA60, RA60F), Tundra (RA60), and Land Cruiser Prado (RA61F) the same month in 2004, followed by the Lexus IS (RA62, RA63) in 2005, the FJ Cruiser (RA61F) in 2006, and finally the GRMN Mark X (Low Production RA62/63 Variant) in 2015.

I believe the only vehicle still using the AY6 in 2023 is the Land Cruiser Prado. Tundra last used it in 2006, Lexus IS in 2012, Tacoma in 2015, FJ Cruiser in 2017, and the GRMN Mark X in 2019.

Kind of surprised to see the RA61F being used behind the GD engine in the Prado 150 and not the RC6xF.

Jeff

 

Lol. Camero.

Camaro <--- Fixed that for you brother.

 

For true OEM parts, you go to a Toyota dealership, but probably 95% of the population thinks / believes that if they need a part for their (insert make and model of vehicle) and they go to the local parts store, they'll get the exact same part that came in it from the factory. And the parts store counter person will further reinforce that belief by telling the customer that they are indeed the exact same parts - just less expensive. After all, his computer screen will show that the part the store has is what the manufacturer calls for.

Unfortunately, this couldn't be further from the truth. Why are parts store parts so much cheaper? Because they're not built to the same specifications - particularly where it comes to durability - as OEM parts. And I should add that they don't have to be. After all, if a guy comes in and says his front wheel bearings failed after 125,000 miles and he wants a replacement, what are the chances he's going to keep the truck for another 125,000 miles and complain if the replacement bearings fail? Answer: About zero. In fact, many folks in that position just want something to get the vehicle ready for a quick sale. So, there is probably a legitimate need for this type of part. And all of this is just for "new" parts.

Where I have a big problem is rebuilt / remanufactured (Yes, there is a difference) parts where you need to return a core. Have you ever seen people complaining about Tacoma front brake calipers failing? Have you ever asked - as I have - if it was OEM calipers that failed or a remanufactured part that failed? Interesting fact. The OEM calipers are routinely capable of going over 100,000 miles with no problems. Parts store remanufactured calipers? Significantly less.

Why would this be true if the remanufactured caliper started with a Toyota OEM core? (And not all remanufactured cores are OEM Toyota.) Because the parts the remanufacturer installs in the cores are inferior to the OEM parts. But people complain that it was a Toyota caliper that failed. Words fail me.

On another forum I participate in, one member was kind enough to quote his actual experience with OEM and remanufactured front calipers. 125,000 miles for his original / OEM calipers, approximately 40,000 miles each for three sets of remanufactured calipers. Pick your poison; "expensive" OEM parts from your Toyota dealership or constant replacement of "cheap" parts store replacements. They - like new parts - are not the same.

 

I didn’t even notice.

Only GM I’ve owned was a 1979 Pontiac TransAm
And not all of it was GM. Just 70% or so.

I lost interest in “fast cars” in the early 2000s.

It cost too much money to go fast.

 

when I insured my first Camaro I spelt it wrong and the insurance lady mocked me. It was humiliating lol

 

At 20 years old I was paying 435$ a month for insurance. Never again

 

I would have told her, “ The jokes on you lady. You gotta share the road with idiots like me who can’t spell.”

 

381$ for my “camero”, blew engine doing a brake stand. Thank god.

 

Try being 20 with a 00’ Ford Lightning and a GSXR.

Tell me about it.