AR-15 BS Thread

man those brownells videos are so hit or miss. Some are genuinely helpful but holy crap 7 minutes for them to say a 13.7” is longer than a 10.5” but shorter than a 16”…

 

Knock off tape switch installed on my knock off light

 

To be honest I posted it before I watched it all the way to the end, and then I thought the same thing. I really thought it would be more informative

 

Hey! Knock it off

 

ATF/DOJ dropped the pistol brace rule today
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/just...s-stabilizing-braces-accessories-used-convert

 

Is this retroactive to cover a previous build?

 

Applies to any pistol brace equipped sub 16 inch barreled gun they even have bolt actions listed in their examples

 

That wording is so confusing, but it seems like they did that on purpose. I built a pistol with a stabilizing brace, I didn't add a stabilizing brace to a pistol to make it a rifle. It sounds like you can register them tax-free for 120 days, so I guess my feeling is "whatever." At that point I guess I can just replace the brace with a stock and use whatever other accessories I want.

 

...and can we take it out of state? I travel with my guns

 

It's dumb and will most definitely be challenged in court (see bumpstock challenge) but that will most likely go well beyond the amnesty period.


From a layman's perspective so don't take this as legal advice I see a couple options

1: for those in free states that allow NFA items and/ or have nfa items already cans sbrs etc and want another nfa item (SBR) do the form 1 for $0 stamp during amnesty period. Once have stamp engrave lower and add a stock then deal with the extra SBR hassle need permission to cross state lines etc

2: remove brace from pistol and wait out the inevitable court cases for final outcome.
Word of warning if ATF gets a hair up their ass and comes searching in probably wouldn't want a brace lying around even if not attached.

3 if went with option 1 and rule is overturned in court build a new pistol lower and go back to the way things were but now you also have a sbr lower too.

4 live dangerously and you do you



Me personally I'm going option 1 I've already got multiple nfa items so they aren't exactly getting anything new of me except the details on my bcm lower. I was planning on SBRing this one anyway because I hate the brace

But for those that buy private party or 80% lowers and do their best to not have nfa stuff and their name in a default registry I get it and it sucks

 

Just have to complete form 4999 to score your firearm. Simple! <LOL>

https://www.atf.gov/file/154866/download

 

They did away with the worksheet and because they're so nice they took it upon themselves to determine. Basically the way I read it is pretty much any brace attached to a sub 16 inch barrel is now a sbr/sbs

 

Well.. brace rule dropped a couple hours ago

 

ZERO likes for this stupid shit, 10 years it was ok now it’s not SMH. Cue up the lawyers

 

Oh I’m betting they’re already to go. After the ruling on bumostocks the other day I’m suprised they went ahead with it

 

I've got a box of 80% lowers I as well go ahead and SBR.

If they're buyin, I'm flyin'!

Edit: I wonder if I can get refunds for SBR stamps I got after pistol braces were approved....

 

The new brace drop is a word salad. Leaves it wide open to interpretation, which makes it easier for you to become a felon. Which is what they want, so they can either register or confiscate. To me, it just creates more questions than answers.

 

They were fairly clear on our 4 options going forward I thought. Register, destroy, turn in, or remove brace and make it to where it can’t be reinstalled

 

Lol kinda my thoughts too. Going to be A LOT of new form 1s being filed. Even for ones that didn't have braces before