Electric vs Gas Cost

Hahaha! That's how we record history.

 

My theory is that if you can't add or subtract you shouldn't buy an EV.

 

Wife and I liked into this about a month ago. Cost for everything was right about 50k.

 

That could (should?) be applied to a lot of other areas?

 

Just to verify that includes:
- Panels
- Controller/Inverter
- Battery Bank
- Peripherals
- Installation

 

These batteries charge 100 miles in under 3 min. Expected 2024 release by some EV car Mfgs. testing happening now.

https://insideevs.com/news/632130/15-brands-testing-storedot-ev-battery-breakthrough/

 

Is the battery bank for off grid use? Are you 100% off grid?

 

The only reason I'm holding off and not putting $10K in suspension + front Harrop E-locker upgrades into my 2014 V6 4.0 is that I'm afraid within 5-6 years Toyota will have released a competitive, performant all-electric Tacoma equivalent... At which point, prices on used 2nd gen 4.0s will probably crater, permanently. Somehow I do find my average of 15-16 MPG (mixed city/highway, winter) a little trying, at times.

As much as I respect the reliability, power, & history of the internal combustion engine, I can't argue with the plain fact that electric motors are just _better suited_ to the task of vehicular wheeled propulsion in every conceivable regard. Torque & HP absolutely off the charts, reliability / simplicity of drivetrain, comfort/quiet. In my view the only remaining weakness is total range due to lower effective energy density of battery packs. (Even after adjusting for relative efficiencies, regen braking, etc.,)

 

Appropriately designed EVs could do much to handle this.

 

Have you ever lived anywhere where a tornado or hurricane came through and you didnt have power for 3-4 days?

 

The key phrase is “competitive performance.” Depending on what that means to a person, especially with a Tacoma, I’m just not sure foreseeable tech is gonna get it.

 

Every car has a different size battery, different power supply, different charger, different charge rate. It's not that simple. The Hummer EV on 220v takes 4.5 days, it has a larger battery, gets more range etc. Keep hating the EV based on stupid info.

 

Would electric gas pumps work during a power outage from a hurricane or tornado if you could reach one?

 

Even if that happened you still don't charge from 0 to 100. You guys are clueless

 

Sure, millions of people live through this every year. The ones that have gasoline or propane backup generators of say, 3.5kW or greater, can use that to charge their EVs enough to go get emergency supplies or make hospital/medical trips, etc.

Also, generally w/ major weather events there are a couple of days of advance notice, plenty of time for EV owners to be sure they are topped up to at least 75% charge before storm hits.

Tornados are less predictable, but TBH they are almost always a much, much more limited event in scale & scope, affecting a few hundred to maybe a few thousands, or tens of thousands, of people at most. (Compared to a hurricane which may impact 3 to 4 orders of magnitude more people - 500K to 5 million+ people.)

 

I'm confused how they're deriving these numbers. Are the prices of oil changes, and whatever other regular maintenance factored in? Because it SHOULD be, and if it's not, these numbers don't look right. I know you can charge a Model 3 for $10-$17 depending on demand, and that'll get you ~300mi of range. So this number ofr $14.10 per 100mi for EV's charged at charging stations isn't jiving with my experience. Also - LOL @ $11.29 per 100mi on gas vehicles. There's just no way. Maybe with your newest cars ONLY considering gas prices going downhill with a tailwind...

 

Not me. I’m just asking, as it seems an independent generating and storage system tied into the grid for convenience is the ultimate way to go.

 

Ah okay my bad.

 

Atom bomb could handle that real quick.

What would an appropriately designed EV do to handle that?

What is an appropriately designed EV?

 

The universal nature of gas pumps and frequency of gas stations makes that a non issue. Im sure you could go plug in a charging station just dont forget your adapter .