2015 4cyl - Will Crank, No Fuel, No OBD, Stuck in park

2015 Tacoma 4cyl / Auto Trans Access Cab
- Will Crank, No Start, No Fuel, Won't come out of Park, NO OBD.
I also tried the two ECM reset methods (battery volt drain and jumping pins 4 & 13)

Hello and thank in advance for any help anyone can provide. This truck has a little over 30,000 miles on it and was warrantied for 7 years / 100,000 miles and wouldn't you know it, it was denied work because I was three months over the 7-year period.

So here is what happened and what has been done, so far.
I literally pulled up in front of the house one afternoon (about a month ago) and went back to start the truck about an hour later and....cranked it over and no fire.
I could tell there was no fuel going to it as well (average+ motor guy) and I did not over crank it. I gave it a minute and same. It turned over with compression, but I pretty much could tell that there was no fuel and probably no spark as well. I pulled a fuel line and indeed, no fuel was flowing when I cranked it...at the time, I did not check the plugs for spark because...

...I noticed another interesting thing that I assuming was a factor correlating with things was that fact that the shifter would not come out of Park when my foot was on the brake pedal. Weird. I was going to put it in Neutral and try and start it, but it was stuck. Even when I depressed the safety release button on the automatic transmission's shifter and put the sifter into the Neutral position...it would crank, still no start.

So I put a cheap

$27 Ancel AD310 Classic Enhanced Universal OBD II Scanner Car Engine Fault Code Reader CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool, Read and Clear Error Codes for 1996 or Newer OBD2 Protocol Vehicle (Black)

Ancel AD310 code reader on it, but the code reader said the truck must be on (or the key in the accessory position) to work. The OBD would start to read and then quit about 50% through the reading with that message. So I thought maybe the OBD was not recognizing the Ignition Switch located on the steering column and that switch might be causing the entire situation. I probed a few wires with a power light / fuse tester and saw that the ST1 and ST 2 wires were NOT HOT with the key in the accessory position or hot when I was cranking the engine.

So with those two factors in mind, I replaced the Ignition Switch (the round plastic unit on the steering column with (I forget exactly the 12 or so wires coming out of it. Similar to the OBD wires. Anyway, before I put the new switch on, I disassembled my old switch which was not meant to come apart. Little springs flew everywhere and three round copper O-shaped plates went flying as well. Once I got the plates back into place, I noticed that the ST1 & ST2 positions and the contacts on the plates meant to touch each other while on that position that would power ST1 & ST2 were GUNKED with black grease, like die-electricl grease from the factory, but way too much. Bottom line, there was no way electricity was flowing through those plates to the ST1 & ST2 wires when they were lined up in that position.

I also replaced the plunger type sensor at the brake pedal location that tells the truck / computer / lights that the brake pedal is on. I thought I nailed the problem. But nope, same thing after I replaced those two sensors / switches and I even tossed a new battery in there.

From there, I checked all electrical lines, fuses, relays and I also opened up and cleaned the very dirty center shift assembly area, trying to make sure when the truck was in Park or neutral, the truck knew it was there. I certainly did not wan't 46 layers of spilled McDonald's coffee with triple sugar and hardened cream between the shift lever its resting location when in Park.

So now, I am working my way to the back BUT, I have not probed the ECM, nor the fuel pump directly. I don't know what I am doing yet on the ECM and before I jump to the fuel pump, I assume it's not getting power already, because of a number of factors (like the computer not telling it to have power). Same thing as the truck no coming out of Park, and the OBD saying to turn the truck on. The last thing that would be allowed to have power and function would be the fuel pump, for safety reasons alone.

So I am looking at the Safety Neutral Switch to test next. I probably need to revisit how to probe and test the ECM (the brain) again before I move on, but I'm trying to learn how do do the next steps and prioritize them as I can. My tools are limited and without any expert knowledge and without a bi-directional scanner in place and working (or blinking codes), it is
If there is anyone who thinks they can help, it would be most awesome. Because my budget is limited, I can't just toss parts into without a better understanding and diagnosing what the heck is telling the ECM to not allow the pertinent parts to function to start the truck.

Testing the Crank Position and Engine Speed sensors will be on the list as well as the Fuel Pump tests, but I need to learn how to test each of these first. I'm all ears to ideas and thank you again.

 

Does the horn work?
Serious question.

 

The horn does work and I believe (but will double verify) that I did swap its relay # 6 with Relay #15 (the Circuit Opening). I am all about this being in the Relay area and need to better test each relay with an OHM meter etc... to make sure each of the pertinent ones (I know they all should be working ideally). The pertinent ones being:
R10 Fuel pump (1GR-FE)
R13 Main relay (EFI)
R6 Circuit Opening

Fuses (Under hood)
4 STOP 10 Stop lights, high mounted stop light, vehicle stability control system, anti-lock brake system, shift lock system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, towing converter
5 OBD 7.5 2005-2011: On-board diagnosis system
7 EFI NO.2 or EFI 10 Multiport fuel injection sy
9 OBD 7.5 2012-2015: On-board diagnosis system
19 ETCS 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, electronic throttle control system
21 EFI or EFI-MAIN 20 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
28 STA 7.5 Starting system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, meter and gauge, clutch start cancel switch
31 AM1 50 "ACC", "IG1", "TGI NO.2", "WIP", "WSH", "4WD", "STA", "BKUP LP" fuses
34 AM2 30 "IGN", "GAUGE" fuses, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
35 AIR PMP 50 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system

IN QUESTION ARE THE FOLLOWING BECAUSE I ONLY HAD THE #38 BOLT-IN IN PLACE ( INV 100 ) AND EVERYTHING WAS WORKING...BUT I HAVE NOT PROBED IT FOR ACTUAL POWER AT THIS POINT AND I DID TRY PULLING IT OUT TO REPLACE IT, BUT THEN REALIZED IT WAS BOLTED IN AND I AM WONDERING IF I DAMAGED IT? TO TEST IT, AM I LOOKING FOR POWER AT ONE OF ITS LOCATIONS WITH THE KEY ON OR OFF OR HOW WOULD IT IDEALLY BE CHECKED? i AM WANTING TO SEE 339 IN THERE AS WELL AS I DO HAVE A TOW PACKAGE BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS INSTALLED AFTER I GOT THE TRUCK...AND #38 WAS ONLY USED?? AGAIN, IT WOULD BE A BLESSING TO STAY UNDER THE HOOD IN THE FUSE AND RELAY LOCATIONS!!
38 INV 100 2013-2015: Power outlets
39 ALT 120 without towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", 'TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses
39 ALT 140 with towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", "TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses

38 INV 100 2013-2015: Power outlets
39 ALT 120 without towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", 'TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses
39 ALT 140 with towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", "TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses

IN THE INTERIOR / FUSE BOX, I VISUALLY CHECKED ALL THE FUSES AND TOOK THEM OUT, REPLACED ANYTHING WITH THE SLIGHTEST CORROSION ON THE LEGS ETC.. BUT I AM ALL EARS TO THE PERTINENT ONES TO CHECK WITHER WITH THE POWER ON OR OFF PER YOUR SAY.

Thank you so much for your time.

 

I don’t know if yours has the immobiler, if it does you could try another key and make sure the light turns off.

 

Not sure but maybe this (post 2 to see if you can manually get it out of park and 22 at least for OPs solution)? https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/solved-need-help-fast-truck-will-not-shift-out-of-park.390784/

 

There is no chip in the key but I am still thinking something in the fuse / relay area because too many things like the above thread are happening and that thread refers to a loose harness clip on the interior fuse box. So, a while back, a stereo shop stabbed a fused wire into one of the always hot blue wires going into the interior's fuse box and it eventually went to fuse #13 which is
13 D FR P/W 30 Power windows. Not sure why that would always be hot,but the wire eventually went to both cig lighters so they remained hot all the time. I noticed where he had stabbed the wire in had become loose and I removed it all together and I actually added a little solder to the section that was stabbed as it seems it lost its integrity. Don't know if the stabbed wire shorted at some point or if that blue wire's integrity is up to part (especially with all this going on). Thanks for that link. It makes me want to go revisit this area.If all looks good (including the shifter connectors which were filthy), I am hoping to reply with some good news. Otherwise?? Thanks again.

 

P.S. Wish I had some sort of reference sheet to know what wires should be hot, their voltage, where to test each wire (before or after the box etc..). I would love to do that thoroughly if I knew what to look for!

 

Spend ~$50 and get a three-year subscription to All Data D-I-Y

is the MIL on? Try a different code reader.. my $1500 Launch unit will not connect to my father's '06 Nissan under any circumstance, but all of my others will...

Once you get the All Data subscription. Start with the diagnostic procedure for the PRNDL switch; if that has failed, it could explain all your symptoms.

 

Have you actually verified the fuses with a multimeter yet?

If not you need to do that before you do anything else. A "Visual Check" is worthless.

Specifically these: IG1, IG1 No2, Stop and ACC.

 

Hmmm.. I searched for 2019, Toyota, and under Model didn’t see “Tacoma” listed.
https://www.alldata.com/diy-us/en/find-vehicle
Update: I found it, have to select “Toyota Truck” then your specific model. But price is listed as $59.99 1 year, $129.99 3 years. Does anyone have this? Is it as good as the Toyota tech subscription?

 

Ouch! Apparently the price went up. I haven't compared it to the Toyota OE subscription, but I use All Data for all my vehicles and it's VERY good.

 

I owe everyone an update. The All Data suggestion was awesome and I am getting the subscription as I speak. I saw some examples of what they provide and that is SO what I needed to test things AND understand the wiring of the truck.

The suggestions from jimmyh to check the fuses with a multi-meter "Specifically these: IG1, IG1 No2, Stop and ACC." is most appreciated as well and will be done. Yesterday was a busy one for me and I will take today to try and work my way through the steps everyone has suggested and I'm super thankful for the input.

I'll reply with the pertinent updates to this as soon as I can. I just want the time to do it right, thus doing my part and not wasting anyone's time shortchanging the, "doing my part," part. LOL Thanks again!

 

Looks interesting, thanks! For the subscription it allows you to look up any vehicle I assume?

 

Let’s start easy.
Do you have power to the the 10A IGN, and IG1 fuses in the run position?
As well as the Stop fuse at all times?

This fuse needs power to allow you to shift out of PARK.

This will help narrow down the direct we need to go to figure this out.

 

Hello and thank you for helping out on this, Long story short...been in and out of the hospital with some heart issues. I'm getting back on this today and was going to check those fuses. To clarify, I am going to the fuse box under the hood and checking them out to see if they have power at all times (with key off)?


THIS IS FOR THE PASSENGERS COMPARTMENT FUSE BOX
When I looked at the legend for the fuse box, here is what Ifound and am going to check:
1 IGN 15 Multiport fuel injection system/ sequential multiport fuel injection system, anti-lock brake system, traction control system, vehicle stability control system, SRS airbag system, front passenger occupant classification system, engine immobilizer system

8 IG1 NO.2 10 Anti-lock brake system, vehicle stability control system, stop lights, charging system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, air conditioning system, instrument panel light control, anti-glare inside rear view mirror, back monitor, clutch start cancel switch, rear differential lock system, power outlets, tire pressure warning system

10 IG1 10 Anti-lock brake system, traction control system, vehicle stability control system, backup lights, air conditioning system, shift lock system, audio system, passenger airbag manual on-off switch

UNDER THE HOOD FUSE BOX
4 STOP 10 Stop lights, high mounted stop light, vehicle stability control system, anti-lock brake system, shift lock system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, towing converter

5 OBD 7.5 2005-2011: On-board diagnosis system

7 EFI NO.2 or EFI 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system

9 OBD 7.5 2012-2015: On-board diagnosis system

31 AM1 50 "ACC", "IG1", "TGI NO.2", "WIP", "WSH", "4WD", "STA", "BKUP LP" fuses

39 ALT 120 without towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", 'TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses

FOR THE HECK OF IT!

Assignment of the fuses in the Passenger Compartment
№ Name Amp Designation
1 IGN 15 Multiport fuel injection system/ sequential multiport fuel injection system, anti-lock brake system, traction control system, vehicle stability control system, SRS airbag system, front passenger occupant classification system, engine immobilizer system
2 GAUGE 7.5 Meter and gauge, emergency flashers, front passenger's seat belt warning system
3 TAIL 10 Tail lights, license plate lights, parking lights, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, front fog lights, instrument panel light control, illuminations
4 - - Not used
5 ACC 7.5 Shift lock system, outside rear view mirrors, audio system, power outlets
6 PWR OUTLET 15 Power outlets
7 DR LCK 20 Door lock system
8 IG1 NO.2 10 Anti-lock brake system, vehicle stability control system, stop lights, charging system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, air conditioning system, instrument panel light control, anti-glare inside rear view mirror, back monitor, clutch start cancel switch, rear differential lock system, power outlets, tire pressure warning system
9 BKUP LP 10 Trailer lights (back-up lights)
10 IG1 10 Anti-lock brake system, traction control system, vehicle stability control system, backup lights, air conditioning system, shift lock system, audio system, passenger airbag manual on-off switch
11 P RR P/W 20 Rear passenger's power window (right side)
12 P FR P/W 20 Front passenger's power window
13 D FR P/W 30 Power windows
14 WSH 10 Wipers and washer
15 D RR P/W 20 Rear passenger's power window (left side)
16 4WD 20 Four-wheel drive system, rear differential lock system
17 WIP 30 Wipers and washer
18 - - Not used
19 - - Not used
20 - - Not used



№ Relay
R1 Taillights
R2 Power windows
R3 Accessory socket

Engine Compartment Fuse Box
Fuse box location
The fuse box is located in the engine compartment (left-side)

Fuse box diagram


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Assignment of the fuses and relay in the Engine Compartment
№ Name Amp Designation
1 A/C 10 Air conditioning system
2 FR FOG 15 2005-2011: Front fog lights
2 TOWING TAIL 30 2012-2015: Trailer lights (tail lights)
3 TOWING TAIL 30 2005-2011: Trailer lights (tail lights)
3 FOG FR 15 2012-2015: Front fog lights
4 STOP 10 Stop lights, high mounted stop light, vehicle stability control system, anti-lock brake system, shift lock system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, towing converter
5 OBD 7.5 2005-2011: On-board diagnosis system
5 TOWING BRK 30 Trailer brake controller
6 - - Not used
7 EFI NO.2 or EFI 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
8 S/HTR NO.2 30 2013-2015: Seat heaters
9 TOWING BRK 30 2005-2011: Trailer brake controller
9 OBD 7.5 2012-2015: On-board diagnosis system
10 BATT CHG 30 Trailer sub battery
11 AIR PMP HTR 10 2013-2015: AI system
12 TOWING 30 Towing converter
13 TURN & HAZ 15 Turn signal lights, emergency flashers, meter and gauge
14 RADIO NO.2 30 Audio system
15 HEAD (LO RH) 10 Right-hand headlight (low beam), front fog lights (2012-2015)
16 HEAD (LO LH) 10 Left-hand headlight (low beam), front fog lights (2005-2010)
17 HEAD (HI RH) 10 Right-hand headlight (high beam)
18 HEAD (HI LH) 10 Left-hand headlight (high beam), meter and gauge
19 ETCS 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, electronic throttle control system
20 ALT-S 7.5 Charging system
21 EFI or EFI-MAIN 20 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
22 HORN 10 Horn
23 A/F HTR 15 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
24 - - Not used (Short Pin)
25 ECU-B 7.5 Wireless remote control system, air conditioning system, multiplex communication system, meter and gauge, front passenger occupant classification system, garage door opener
26 DOME 7.5 Interior light, personal lights, clock, vanity lights
27 RADIO NO.1 10 2005-2012: Audio system
27 RADIO NO.1 20 2013-2015: Audio system
28 STA 7.5 Starting system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, meter and gauge, clutch start cancel switch
29 S/HTR NO.1 50 2013-2015: Seat heaters
30 J/B 50 "TAIL", "AC SKT", "DR LCK", "D FR P/W", "D RR P/W", "P FR P/W", "P RR P/W" fuses
31 AM1 50 "ACC", "IG1", "TGI NO.2", "WIP", "WSH", "4WD", "STA", "BKUP LP" fuses
32 HTR 50 "A/C" fuse, air conditioning system
33 ABS NO.1 50 Anti-lock brake system, vehicle stability control system
34 AM2 30 "IGN", "GAUGE" fuses, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
35 AIR PMP 50 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
36 ABS NO.2 30 Anti-lock brake system, vehicle stability control system
37 - - Not used
38 AC SKT 100 2005-2012: Cigarette lighter, power outlets
38 INV 100 2013-2015: Power outlets
39 ALT 120 without towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", 'TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses
39 ALT 140 with towing package: "AM1", "AC SKT", "HEATER", "FR FOG", "STOP", "OBD", "J/B", "TOWING TAIL", "TOWING BRK", "BATT CHG" fuses
Relay
R1 Not used
R2 Towing tail relay
R3 Stop lamp control (with VSC)
R4 Headlight
R5 Front fog light (1GR-FE)
R6 Circuit Opening
R7 Air Fuel Sensor Heater
R8 Dimmer
R9 Not used
R10 Fuel pump (1GR-FE)
R11 Air conditioning (MG CLT - magnetic clutch)
R12 Starter
R13 Main relay (EFI)
R14 Trailer sub battery
R15 Horn
R16 Heater

Relay Box
The relay unit is located behind the fusebox.

 

Sorry to hear about your health problems.
I too was just in the ER last night with my grandfather.
He went in to AFIB, but he’s doing ok.

Anyways, let me refresh my memory and read over your original post.
Until then, let’s start with the diagrams for the fuse box I have.
I think these are labeled better, and include pinout.

 

With ignition to On/Run check the fuses below.
15A IGN
10A IG1

Power at all time
10A Stop
20A EFI

 

I'll edit this as I go. Real quick, in-cab / passenger compartment... It appears all have power to:
KEY ON
#1 15am IGN YES
#8 10 amp YES
#10amp YES

NO POWER TO#5 WITH KEY ON
5 ACC 7.5 Shift lock system, outside rear view mirrors, audio system, power outlets


--------------------------------

Power at all time
UNDERHOOD
KEY ON NO POWER TO #1 IGN, 7, 15, 16, 17, 18

TESTING THE FOLLOWING WITH KEY OFF NOW
4 STOP 10 Stop lights, high mounted stop light, vehicle stability control system, anti-lock brake system, shift lock system, multiport fuel inject0ion system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, towing converter
YES

21 EFI or EFI-MAIN 20 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
YES

I'll update this in just a couple of minutes.
THANKS MUCH TShooter!

 

UNDERHOOD

KEY ON NO POWER TO
#1 A/C
#7 EFI NO.2 or EFI 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
#15, #16, #17, #18,
#19 ETCS 10 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, electronic throttle control system

KEY OFF - POWER AT ALL TIMES
4 STOP 10 Stop lights, high mounted stop light, vehicle stability control system, anti-lock brake system, shift lock system, multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system, towing converter
YES

21 EFI or EFI-MAIN 20 Multiport fuel injection system/sequential multiport fuel injection system
YES

Please advise me of my next move (or if I missed something).
THANKS MUCH TShooter!

I test the two relays for the EFI (I believe both R6 & R10) and then if need be, the horn works, so if I find either R6 or R9 to be bad on a bench test with the OHM meter etc..), I'll try and use the horn relay to swap out (with my fingers crossed).