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TRD/ Magnuson 4.0 Supercharger Tips, Tricks, and Mods

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by 12TRDTacoma, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Feb 6, 2023 at 1:20 PM
    12TRDTacoma

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    I usually do it about 2 times, 3 being the most and then run it as is. The heat convection that is generated on that thing is so much it may wrinkle the paint in certain spots so I wouldn't worry too much about cleaning it up unless you are a perfectionist. Which I totally understand from personal experience. Lol. In my case, despite me being that way I didn't pay too much mind to this because I was trying to make it look decent so it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb during inspections.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2023 at 3:48 PM
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    300ah is a lot of battery. You going lithium @nudavinci64?

    We have 300ah of gel batteries in our trailer and it'll power us for 4-5 days depending on power consumption and I've been able to stretch that to 7 days with a 150w solar blanket. I'm planning on swapping in lithium this summer for some weight savings and the ability to drain the batteries deeper and charge them faster.
     
  3. Feb 6, 2023 at 4:59 PM
    12TRDTacoma

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    Holy crap a 300ah lithium battery? That's the derivative equal to a 600ah AGM battery. That's A LOT of juice.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2023 at 6:01 PM
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    Lift, pedal commander, led foglights, led interior lights, led back ups, led under lighting, urd tcai, led headlights, methanol injection, 76mm tb, hood struts, dif breather mod, ratiotek trans kit, x-series gauges, true cool trans cooler, belt wrap mod, 2.8 pulley
    must be one impressive audio system to command that.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2023 at 6:47 PM
    stickyTaco

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    We have 300ah of gel now so only 150 useable.

    I'm going to tow it over to Battleborn Batteries and see what I can fit. It'll either be a pair of 100ah, three 75ah, a single 270ah, or triple 100ah. Our fridge/freezer is big and we have stuff that needs charging. Goal is to be able to park it somewhere in the middle of nowhere for a week with enough power that I can work. We can do it now but I have to plug in to the truck and charge off the alternator for a couple hours on day 3 or 4.
     
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    What kinda trailer?

    :worthless:
     
  7. Feb 6, 2023 at 9:05 PM
    stickyTaco

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    Patriot X3. Was my 10 year survivor purchase...fuck cancer. In 2014 I had my first recurrence and was given 18-24 months to live. After finding a different Dr that would treat me and having a major surgery and chemo in October 2014 I went to the RV dealer hopped up on pain meds and bought a 23ft travel trailer so I could puke in comfort when we were camping. Problem was we were limited to developed campgrounds.

    Ended up getting a RTT after a recurrence in 2018 (again hopped up on pain meds but not as big of a financial commitment). I hated having to spend a couple hours to load the truck up every time we were going out so one night when the Mrs and I were a bottle of wine deep I suggested we sell our trailer and get something more off road oriented. She agreed. I confirmed with her the next morning that it was still something she supported and by the end of the week we had decided on the Patriot and put a deposit on a build slot.

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  8. Feb 6, 2023 at 9:07 PM
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    Not going to lie my man. That is one BADASS setup. (Probably hella expensive too. Lol)
     
  9. Feb 6, 2023 at 9:11 PM
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    That is a sweet set up. Cancer can suck it.
     
  10. Feb 6, 2023 at 10:24 PM
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    Lithium. My plan was 200 or 2x battleborns but the 270 is a great form factor and extra is never had. 270 in the same space as 200. I plan to run a starlink, fridge, potential monitor, fridge and fan or heater at some point. I’m not full time but looking to head out and work remote for a few days and enjoy weekends. 50ah will power the sterling for 17 hours give or take not factoring any other draw. I could get away with 100 or 200. Anything past that is more space and if I find the right deal or setup. 200ah was what I was shooting for. not even factoring any stereo. It at some point I’ll dabble again there.
     
  11. Feb 6, 2023 at 10:25 PM
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    That’s a killer setup! Good move now you can go wherever.
     
  12. Feb 7, 2023 at 12:41 AM
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    Not an expert in the ways of off the grid but it might be more weight efficient/reliable to use propane for heat. Electricity is terribly inefficient but there are some RV units that can do both. Also being in Cali you can also just dress warmly unless you're truly winter camping but that's more of a van life thing...
     
  13. Feb 7, 2023 at 1:24 AM
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    Yah heat is the last of my adds honestly and if so will be a diesel or propane so little electricity. most of this setup is not very heavy. Things like a. Heater will be portable and only added as needed but so far only had a few super cold days. More was a thought for when the family is with me.
     
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    Probably less expensive than a blown Camaro ;)


    But also a lot more expensive than a sleeping bag and ground pad :rofl:
     
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    this is a good post and something I’ve reconsidered with my DC Engineering 270A alternator.

    Don’t you have a LiFeP04 battery? You should look at what the BMS can handle in both charging and discharging. I was looking to get a pair of new batteries but it is very hard to get LiFeP04 batteries with integrated BMS that will accept all those amps for any amount of time. Ended up with a pair of group 31 AGMs. Was a lot cheaper though.
     
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    https://antigravitybatteries.com/products/starter-batteries/automotive/ag-24-rs/
    I think that's the one I have. Idk, I bought it cause it's super light and has a 10yr warranty. I'll have to look under the hood later to find out which particular one I have on my truck.
     
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    In the battery manual it only list maximum charging rate at 20amps from a LiFeP04 charger. LifeP04 batteries can take a charge much faster than the FLA or AGM batteries and could have a detrimental effect on the battery or your stock charging system if you have a heavily depleted charge and you have a system capable of a high charging rate. I would check with the BMS manufacturer before you invest in a HO alternator, really might not need one at all. Also, I'll see if I can find the youtube video, but there's a lot of talk in the marine world about putting a clutch of sorts on the HO alternators in order to control the charging rates for Lithium batteries.
     
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    Interesting. Really only thing taxing on my electrical system would probably be when I tow. The trailer winch loved the change from agm to the antigravity seemed to pull faster. Minus some gauges (plan to add 3 more), supercharger pump, and the future change of headlights I don't have a high demanding electric need on my truck. Thanks for the info, probably saved me a grand. Still want the blue though. Lol.
     
  19. Feb 8, 2023 at 8:56 AM
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    Yeah, I get it.

    Also, while we're at it, might as well consider your sustained discharge rates. Specific if you're running a trailer winch for 60 seconds or a couple of minutes like my trailer winch takes. Just watch the charge/discharge rates along with your wiring to the trailer winch. I really wanted to go LiFeP04 but the investment costs along with statements from manufacturer's on these rates made me rethink my application. I think it won't be long until someone has a super high output BMS system that'll check all the boxes. Check out ChargeX batteries, they have a couple of HO integrated BMS systems that in parallel would've been neat to try....but it would've been $3K in batteries. I can't justify it yet.
     
  20. Feb 8, 2023 at 1:50 PM
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    yah you have to put it all into perspective. The new plan I will be running a total management setup with red arc redvision and manager 30. I was going back and forth on victron vs red arc and decided on red arc (1 got a deal and 2 space savings). I have been running dual agms and large single agms the past several years but weight and overall bank lithium is better. You can get lower cost ones but with AGM I had plenty of AGMs die and like the longer warranties. 80lbs of AGM gets you 100ah give or take or 50ah of useable power. 80lbs of Lithium gets you 2-300ah. Cost is way higher but space savings, weight and overall useable power eventually won there but still the last purchase will be the batteries. Debating between 1 larger one or 2 smaller ones. The though processes on mine is any short term, offroad, truck related items will go to the front half and any long deep cycle will go to the rear. I may remove the extra battery up front but since its small it would be there if needed for extra or to run all the aux accessories such as lights, seats, switches etc there instead of the starter and leave that clean. Also may end up with a couple amps for audio so that would not pull fro the rear and use the front setup. Mapped out it looks ridiculous but MOST of it not all has purpose.
     

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