4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

2.4sTT (Twin teapot)

 

Also confirmed. Gonna burn biomass to save the planet.

 

The problem with buying the first model year of a new gen (besides the reliability coin toss) is that it's almost certain that the submodel that you really want won't surface until year 2 or 3...

 

I saw a new Tundra Pro in black this morning. Gorgeous, big ass grille and all. But I wondered what the price was for it…

 

I’ve seen them for $80,000.

 

$85k if you can find one not marked up stupid. Still think it’s funky looking. Not sure what I’m gonna do. About to just pull trigger on stage 2 fox setup and wait it out.

 

$85,000 for a pick up truck. The sticker price for my 2008 Land Cruiser was $63,000 which is about $86,000 in today’s money. Holy shit.

 

Think I like that better than the Sequoia, more subdued looks and much better cargo area. Wonder if they are going to offer a Woodland edition, slightly lifted for just enough clearance for gravel FS roads without going overkill.

Actually…if we were in Europe.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/07/d...n-hvo100-fossil-free-fuel-starting-from-2023/

 

Right. Have you looked at halfway decent equipped F150s? $70k

 

Isn't the big difference, you see a $70k Tundra and you'll be paying $65k. Where if you see a $70k F150/Silverado/Ram you'll be paying closer to $55-60k? (at least way back in 2019)

 

3/4 tons are over 6 figures for fully rigged out ones. Pretty crazy these days.

 

Pretty amazing [to me] that Toyota now has $130k SUVs. 96k in 2008 money.

 

What prevents people from stealing the mules?

 

The high costs of trucks is why there’s a market for a SR with the old and reliable 2.7. Everyone doesn’t buy the top trims. Some people just want a no frills, reliable truck. You can’t get more reliable than the 2.7.

 

I wonder what transmission is going to be offered and if it will be different for each powertrain or what.

 

Even adjusted for inflation, those SR's are going home for the same, if not more money than I paid for my OR.

The rising of prices has effectively moved every model available up the ladder and there is now no lower rungs on it. SR's just "look" like a deal due to the company they keep. A "cheap" truck will always have a market in this country.

 

There is a lower rung it’s just not as low as it used to be and it’s still cheaper than the alternative. Yeah a SR is as much as a OR was 5 years ago but it’s a hell out of lot cheaper than everything else in the current market. And you’re right, there will always be a market for a cheap truck. Unfortunately, that’s the current market.

 

I don’t know why they killed the Land Cruiser and I don’t know why they think that they can compete in a field mostly occupied by the Germans and Land Rover.

 

^Probably because the LX outsold the Land Cruiser 10 to 1. And keep in mind Toyota has been in the luxury SUV game a lot longer than the Germans.

 

Because the Lexus and LandCruiser were the sameish price and if ya paying 80k+ you want the neighbors to know ya spent money