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I think my front shocks are topping out

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Junkhead, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:20 PM
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    MalinoisDad

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    Glad someone said this... Sure looks like the shock took a shat.
     
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  2. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:21 PM
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    Thanks.

    Interesting that you said that peeps with OME suspension on their trucks have got the same clunk/thud.

    Im definitely going to jack up the front of my truck and see wth is happening. If like you said it wont take much to lift my tires off the ground then everything will make perfect sense to me. Limiting straps would help right? But then I’ll have even less downtravel?

    Also, why didn’t they make the shock 2” longer, wouldn’t that fix the “topping out” issue?

    Learning quite a bit over here.:)
     
  3. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:22 PM
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    Dude. It’s fluid film.
     
  4. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:24 PM
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    by heavier I meant that they are intended to lift the vehicle ride height.. a higher spring rate vs stock

    not physical weight of the springs
     
  5. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:27 PM
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    Thanks for advice man.

    Won’t be picking up my truck till
    The weekend, will measure them.
     
  6. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:27 PM
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    your shocks might not have enough valving for the spring rate if it's been doing it since new. sounds like you need more rebound damping.
     
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  7. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:27 PM
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    No they are actually lower spring rate. Stock is like 730 I believe, these are 650.
     
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    limiting straps are not going to solve the problem.. longer shocks are going to bind the front drive line, have the upper a-arms hit the coil at full droop.. etc.. watch the video very closely.. it is an excellent resource
     
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    stock is less than 650

    730 is way over sprung for a stock Tacoma,,, just facilitates a quicker top out..
     
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    This kit was designed to work together tnough? I don’t get it.
     
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    :notsure: is there a way to reduce preload?
     
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    You must’ve been in some Tacoma’s with either poorly installed components or ones with wrong coil/shock combos for the weight. Nitrochargers are great shocks and can handle down travel, up travel and everything in between better than many others. Our shop has installed tons of OME on Tacoma’s, as well as others, with nothing you mention ever occurring.
     
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    what should the down travel be on that suspension package with a 2" ride height over stock on a factory 3rd gen 4 door V6?

    .
     
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  14. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:32 PM
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    My shocks are not adjustable, so I would say no? Orr I could just add a huge steel bumper:)
     
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    :goingcrazy:
     
  16. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:35 PM
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    Approximately 2”, did I win?
     
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  17. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:37 PM
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    I’ve never driven a vehicle that didn’t make a thud sound when hitting a sufficiently large enough bump. The sound you are hearing might be normal and nothing to worry about.

    How do you know that hitting your max downtravel makes a thud sound? Have you jumped your truck off the ground and heard the same sound after lift off but before landing?

    You can measure your down travel very simply by measuring the distance between the center of your hub to your fender flare at ride height and when the front end is jacked off the floor and then subtracting the two.

    As I understand it, OEM and OEM replacement shocks are designed to “top out” and have a quasi bump stop inside the shock. The forces of topping out the shock are much more limited than those from bottoming out the shock, thus there is an external bump stop to precent the shock from bottoming out.
     
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  18. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:43 PM
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    Depending on the wheel offset and tire width this might not be accurate because from the center of the hub up to the fender flare requires the tape measure to bend around the tire side wall. I specifically tried this method and found that issue. If you have a straight line going up from the center of the hub to the fender, it may work. Mark each point with a piece of tape so you don't deviate your two from the two end points.

    Shock measurement will be the most accurate.
     
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  19. Feb 27, 2023 at 4:47 PM
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    It depends if you have any added weight. Especially up front. You never answered if you are on stock bushings or the OME 3133. I would hope the latter
     
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    Measuring the shock is a PITA and the result still needs to be multiplied by motion ratio to get the down travel. The hub to fender is easier and will get us to within +/- 0.25” I guesstimates.
     
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