Better Gas Mileage

Ok, what I will do then is just remove the VPE and see what the fuel economy is after that.

 

Thanks for being the guinea pig, 007. I appreciate it in the abstract, but honestly, what I'm most interested in seeing are the V6 numbers. That's why I didn't pipe up with any advice. I really hope this'll work, as I suspect you do, but we really need to do our best to objectively look at the data. The adjustments of the ECU do cause us to question that data sometimes though.

 

UPDATE. My Eco-2 system just began working fine after driving 50 miles. Until now, the idle has been high and the rpms surged and fluctuated constantly. All of a sudden . . . just fine.

 

wow should have started reading this tread when it started in sted of waiting till there was 8 pages how long are you going to test this 007 keep us updated

 

I removed the VPE this morning and filled up my last tank. I need to go get my log sheet out of the truck, but I am feeling lazy at the moment. My last tank of gasoline on the VPE yeilded a fuel economy of ~21 MPG. I will write down the full statistics when I get the log out of the truck.

After taking out the VPE, I did notice a slight drop in power on the low end (getting to highway speeds took a bit longer this morning.

I plan on running through 3-5 tanks to see what my average is without the VPE. I will keep my driving style the same. We will see what all this yields.

I am very curious to see how things are going for maverick491.

 

This post has been the most interesting one ive read on here! You guys are awesome for taking all the time and money to just figure out if the VPR will work or not. I just installed a simple k&n drop in filter....and the mod bug just bit me. Now im like...ooooo i need a new exhaust....oooo...i need some seat covers. HAHAHA really i want all of those not really need. But i might get the vpr if it works out in the end. Right now I get 350 miles per tank at about 19 mpg. Also its a 4.0. So its not too bad but i would be happy with 21 or 22. Thanks again for all your guys hard work at this!

 

I mean VPE...stupid me.

 

Here is the numbers for the last tank with the VPE installed...

Okay, here are the latest numbers...

Tank 1 (Sept 29 - Oct 10) - 339.9 miles / 15.895 gallons = 21.384 MPG
*My cruising speed was 76 MPH.
*Top speed was 80 MPH.
*Minimal "heavy footed" driving.
*38% (130.1 miles) was spent in heavy city traffic.
*62% (209.7 miles) was highway driving with moderate to heavy traffic.
*The Air Conditioning was on 100% of the time.
*No towing.
*No hauling.

I was kinda dissapointed in the last tank, but we are going to see how the truck does without the VPE. If my mileage stays low, then I have another problem. If my mileage increases, then I may shelf the VPE. If my mileage goes down, then I will be calling the dealership to find out why I am getting V6 mileage out of a 2.7L.

 

Beware of that bug. I have a list that is 2 pages long of wants with a price tag that could buy me another truck.

 

so how much does this thing cost?

 

SteveO, what did you pay for yours?

 

I paid $189 for the unit and $39 for the install kit. Kind of expensive, I think. But if it works half as well as advertized, I think it's a good expense. My truck really does seem more responsive, more powerful, and getting better.

 

Good morning Tacoma owners!
I am the manufacturer's rep. for ECO-Systems. I would just like to take a few minutes to explain our system to you so that you can see how we help your trucks operations.
First of all we simply enhance the fuel you are currently using so that it burns more completely in the combustion chambers. Our units were invented to help reduce emissions and this can be proven with a 4 or 5 gas analyzer test. However due to the more complete burn, this creates a hotter burn of which heat transfers to power and that is where you get the extra performance of the vehicle. You will feel a crisper throttle response, a peppier engine and will have to do less downshifting on the hills. A more complete burn also reduces carbon build-up which means less carbon going into your oil that helps extend the life of your engine. Less carbon build-up also helps to keep your injectors cleaner and your O2 sensors as well.
As you can see it is not just a fuel saver. You will save money on maintenance as well. These are the reasons new truck and car dealers are selling our product with the vehicle to be able to keep your new vehicle running at peak performance longer.
The types of fuel you run make a difference in mileage as well as performance, so when testing we ask that you use the same fuel consistently ie. Exxon, Mobil, Valero. BP, etc. What you do with the extra power we create is up to you. If you drive the same as before you will see an average of 10 to 12 percent in fuel economy. Now if you find out that you can get from 0 to 80 a lot quicker and throttle harder on take offs then your increase may be only 5 percent but your getting to where you are going quicker using more performance.
One thing to remember is to NEVER reset the ECU. This will reset your computer to stock each time. The technicians at the dealerships and at the labratories we have tested in have also told us not to do this. The best way is to check 2 or 3 tanks without the ECO-System and then install the unit and repeat. Check your miles driven to gallons used.
I am working on a group buy for the members of this forum and with the administrators approval we will be posting it shortly.
I hope I have cleared a few things for you this morning and will be glad to answer questions for you. You can also get a lot of information at
www.ecosystemsupport.com.
Have a Great Day and Safe Driving to all of you!!
Ben

 

Didn't mythbusters test your device on one episode? I am pretty sure they did and from what they tested the device did not gain any MPG. But they did notice the car ran better. I am going to go find that myth on there site to refresh my memory.

Not trying to say your device does not work but 10% would be another 2 mpg on freeway as a hypothetical scenario. That would definitely make it work the buy.

So your system acts more like a secondary fuel fiter?
What about long term use. will your part continue to offer the same performance?
Do I ever have to replace the item after a cretin time?
If I run a CAI, Exhaust and then do software will I need to tune for this device?
Have you tested to see if this causes any long term issues to modified cars?

Also some feed back fro you. Please update your site. From a consumer standpoint the site make it hard to believe your system works. If you need web help PM me.

 

I am pretty sure they tested the ECO system on Episode 43. But here are some of the other ones they did fuel tests.


Episode 80: Big Rig Myths
In Exploding Tire of Death, Adam and Jamie try to find out if an exploding truck tire can kill. Meanwhile, Kari, Tory and Grant investigate another fuel efficiency fable.
Premiere: June 6, 2007

Episode 53: Exploding Pants
Tory, Kari and Grant investigate one truly dangerous fashion disaster: spontaneous trouser combustion. It's a problem far too prevalent among farmers. The MythBusters call in the help of the FBI to investigate this trouser tall tale. Meanwhile, Adam and Jamie try to save viewers some hard-earned cash in the Great Gas Conspiracy. When the motor car was born, the great gas conspiracy was the afterbirth. According to conspiracy theorists, gas companies and car manufacturers deliberately make cars so that they guzzle fuel. Then, behind closed doors, the two groups share the profits.

Episode 43: Seasickness — Kill or Cure
The whole team takes on the challenge of finding the holy grail of the sea, i.e., an effective remedy for mal de mer, in this episode. From electric shock therapy to homeopathic tongue tinglers, can the MythBusters find a cure to this frequently regurgitated problem? Returning to shore, Adam and Jamie hit the road in a fuel efficiency special. They seek to answer the age-old question: Does driving with your pickup's tailgate down save gas and, hence, money?
premiere: Nov. 16, 2005

 

Whatever happened to a 4.0 test? I could do it whenever i get back from California for business but that is like two weeks worth of waiting....i want it now! HAHA!

 

Maeverick491 is testing on a 4.0. I have not seen any posts lately from him.
As for mythbusters they have tested many other products but they have not tested the ECO-System. If you go to the testimonial page of our website you will see many Automotive Technicians and Fleet managers that have tested the product. We have been checked by the Trouble-Shooters investigative news teams. We did not just start a couple of months ago, we have been working with many government fleets, cities, and school districts mainly in the Southwest for some time now. Just recently we have expanded into the new car dealerships and are having great success. It's simple, if you run better quality of fuel your engine is going to perform better. Customers of brand new vehicles can feel the difference in performance before and after with the ECO-System on 4 and 6 cylinder engines. This is true for any make or model.
The units need no replacing if installed after the fuel filter.
It does not act as a secondary filter since we are not removing anything from the fuel, therefore needs no replacing. In fact when you trade vehicles you can take the unit off and install on the next vehicle.
Our units also come with a 90 day money back guarantee. If you are unhappy with it's performance, return it for a full refund. Our Distributors and Car dealerships are professionals and take care of our customers.
Thanks,
Ben

 

So it acts like a atomizer?

Sorry if I am the pain in the but guy on the forum. I am just trying to understand how running fuel through copper basically will make the fuel better. Unless I am missing something which I think I am.

Also do you have a application to work with a very modified 2002 M3?
If it work on the truck I will want to try it on my M3.

 

I'm in for the group buy. Although I have my doubts the data seems to be holding up and the added response and power will be nice regardless of the MPG improvement.

Joe

 

I don't blame you for being skeptical and doubtful. There are many products on the market that do scam the public. Most of them are around for a year or two dissappear and show up again under a different name. We have been in business here at the same place for over 8 years now. Our success has been word of mouth and real world testing. The testing our references have done is in real drive time and comparing apples to apples type driving. The result have shown them less maintenance cost and less fuel consumption. That is money in the Bank. These fleet managers and technicians are professionals. The company's, cities and counties we have worked with are still customers of our product. Many of them have been using our product for more than Five years now. Believe me, If we were a scam, Police and Sheriff department fleets in Counties and municipalities would not be our main source for business. We do not do multi-level marketing or mass marketing. We want our customers to be satisfied with a product that they will reccommend to their freinds and family members with confidence. At the same time we are helping the environment to lower harmful exhaust gasses and particulate from the air we breathe.

Your M3 should use an ECO #2 as well.

As I have said before if your unhappy with our product you can return it for a full refund within 90 days from purchase. However once you take it off your vehicle will not have the extra pep.

Thanks, and drive Safely,
Ben