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Rear end sag

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by PrairieCajun72, Mar 6, 2023.

  1. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:25 AM
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    PrairieCajun72

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    So I have a Jayco Hummingbird TT
    It's light weight, plus hitch weight is less than 300lbs. I have the blue sumo springs but I still have some sag. Any ideas?
     
  2. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:28 AM
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    Maybe its time to upgrade your leaf pack!
     
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    Several options out there, here’s what I went with.
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  4. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:40 AM
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    So if I go with an aal which one and also are roadmaster's good.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:41 AM
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    Weight distribution hitch will help transfer weight to the front axle of the truck, and off the rear axle. This will help with all around stability.
     
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  6. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:42 AM
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    Might post a pic of your unloaded leaf springs, as they might just be shot. Adding an AAL to a worn out pack is just a waste as the AAL will just be fighting the flattened worn out pack. Better to pick up some new Take-Offs from someone cheap on here then do an AAL if still needed.
     
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  7. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:44 AM
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    I dont think an AAL will help much, you either need a whole new leaf pack as someone suggested or helper leaf designed for weight not height(AAL) as suggested above.

    I have these and they work great, you can fine turn/dial them into engage at whatever weight you want/need.
    https://www.hellwigproducts.com/product-list/helper-springs/
     
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  8. Mar 6, 2023 at 8:51 AM
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    Every time i see your truck pop up... just love the look man. :thumbsup:
     
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    new leaf pack and a WDH, welcome to the travel trailer rabbit hole!
     
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    My wife has this problem too. I suggested Pilates.
     
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    I went with Firestone Ride-Rite air bags. Adjustable and since I have a shell it helps to keep a few pounds in them even without the trailer. A WDH will help you to trim the truck and help with sway, just don't go too far overboard because the frames on the new light weight trailers are light as well. Too heavy duty of a hitch and over adjustment can likely bend the frame if taken to extreme.
     
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    I chose the Road Master setup because it was adjustable. Air bags are also adjustable.
     
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    My truck is a 2022 Taco SR double cab 5.1 ft bed. So springs are new. I have a wdh as well. So I guess I need to start shopping for air bags? Anyone need some blue sumo springs?
     
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  15. Mar 6, 2023 at 3:01 PM
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    Any pics of said trailer hooked up? Seems odd you'd sag significantly with only 300 pounds of tongue weight, especially with a WDH. Is this actual weighed tongue weight, or estimate based on paperwork of an empty trailer?
     
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    I ran those for years. No real complaints. I took them off when I redid suspension and put in a new pack. No complaints on the leaf pack route either.
     
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    So here is my truck. It's as level as I can get it. It still saga some to me I have the wdh set at the height for the trailer. Any other suggestions?
     

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    You didn't hook up the equalizer bars for this photo.

    upload_2023-3-7_13-13-4.jpg
     
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    unhook the trailer, if you beef up the rear then it will be too high when you are not towing, a 100 year old problem
     
  20. Mar 7, 2023 at 1:52 PM
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    Looks like from your picture that you haven't completely set up the wdh. Follow the manual. It's pretty easy to do. It is supposed to balance the tongue weight. Add more weight to the front of your truck and remove some from the back. Without the spring bars you aren't using the wdh at all.
     
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