3rd gen trans driving me nuts !

That's different than saying it learns and adapts to how any one individual drives their Tacoma, and adjusts accordingly.

That's also no different than the operation of any other automtic transmission, and not unique to this transmission in the 3rd gen.

I'm sure the shifting isn't as bad as people make it out to be. There are also going to be people who don't like the transmission based on how they drive, and the transmission isn't going to be able to adjust to the way they want the truck to perform.

 

That is quite literally HOW a person drives their truck.

 

You drive a truck according the the operating characteristics of the truck. The truck does not adjust to your driving characteristics, certainly not outside of any charcteristics that the truck wasn't designed to operate.

I can't recall anyone with the 4cyl and 6spd auto complain about shifting and gear hunting.

I think it's how the V6 works with the 6spd auto that some people do not like. There's nothing wrong with the transmission.

 

Idk what to tell you. It DOES adjust based upon driving style. Does it do most of its shifting under high torque demand or low torque demand? That's determined by driver. Is the throttle opened rapidly or slowly? That's determined by driver. It's nothing for the transmission to record these and that is what it does. You can say NO all you want but this is nothing new and has been implemented for decades at this point.

 

If it learns so well than why did toyota release a TSB to fix it? A tune is what helps it alot esp the newest updated ones. A stock trans that hunts alot isn't expected to be healthy one yrs down the road. Bigger tires,added weight only enhances the patheticness of this trans

 

"Learning" doesn't mean perfect. It's still just trying to match some parameters, those parameters can be wrong.

 

What is unique to this transmission in comparison to any other automatic transmission?

 

All newer trans are abt increasing MPG.

 

Automatic transmissions change gears automatically.

Anyone complaining about “too much shifting” should drive a 10 speed Ford and observe the number of shifts per minute in that bad boy. 1-3-2-7-6–10-4-6-1-8-9 etc.

Only thing is the turbo Fords have the low-RPm power to back-up those shifts and give you nice pedal feel, whereas the NA V6 in the taco doesn’t.

What is true is people complain that the 3G Tranny shifts when they wish it didn’t, but very very few reports here about automatic transmission failures. I can’t recall any. It’s been bulletproof. You can argue about tuning or OEM TSB tuning, or get you panties in a knot about the choices made, but it’s a solid piece of kit.

 

If you stay on the gas the Ford shifts pretty smoth and you don't notice it too much. If you let it coast you really feel it down shift. If you give it a good amount of gas from a stand still you feel the lower gears. Down shifts in anything below 5th with out any throttle input are very clunky.

Autos usually feel better with some throttle input when up or down shifting.

 

My work vehicle is a 2018 10 speed F150. They show you the gear selection on the dash, and it’s all over the place, but you don’t feel it. Ford got that stuff right……………..

however……..what I will say is that my Tacoma drives and shifts pretty much the same as when I got it, but after 4 years in the Ford it is shifting worse and worse and worse. It’s gone from buttery smooth, to some clunkiness, to some mornings where the first shift is a doozy and shakes the whole truck.

I feel I’m about a few months away from my F150 transmission blowing up, and I am not worried at all about my Taco tranny.

 

I drove 2 1/2 hours each way. Paid $400
For the OTT Tune
I have a new truck.

 

wow, I have the exact same issue! My work truck is a 2017 F150 with the 3.5EB and 10 speed. I used to rave about how nice it drove, tons of power, great MPGs, etc. Now it has tons of power, great MPGS, but at nearly 80k the transmission clunks and falls over itself. I too believe it's going to eat itself alive in the next 20k miles. Hell, mine has thing, when I first start the truck and it's still in Park, the driveline has a bind or a load and clunks from underneath before I even touch the gear select.
If the F150 were mine, I would have traded it off a year or so ago. We can't get enough vehicles at work, so I know they are having to fix whatever just to keep us going, so I don't even bother.

 

Actually its one of the few videos toyota god isn't full of chit.

 

The only other Ford 10spds I have driven were a few Rangers on test drives, and a 450 with the gas 7.3 which felt clunkier that didn't have a turbo. Like you said that transmission might prefer the lower torque from the turbo. Yes the gearing is all over the place skips gears shifts up and down with out any driver input for what seems like no reason. I also use to drive a V10 450 with the 6spd that felt as clunky but did not shift nearly as much.

 

Might need that extra bolt to smooth things out.

 

I didn't watch that entire video. I don't see where the 3rd gen 6spd is different from other automatics that learn and make adjustments to match input from the engine.

It sounds like snake oil, in response to a transmission complaint.

 

Don't use OD until you're over 65 mph. Problem solved.

 

I am in the same boat. The company owns the F150 I drive, so when it grenades it’s not really my problem. One of the beauties of having a company truck. Drive it until it explodes and lose no sleep over it.

 

DUDE! I have a 2018, and when I got it about 50k in I started noticing the same, at the time it was just "the third gen shudder" because there was no info about it. at 55k I went in to the dealership and asked them to do a trans fluid drain and fill... their response was "its a sealed unit with lifetime fluid, we don't need to change it ever." I thought that was BS because all fluid needs to be changed, but I trusted them... to my demise. Fast forward to 115k miles and now im being told I need to replace my transmission due to a fault, and a failed TQ converter, which costs me 7k out of pocket. Needless to say im furious. Especially after reading more online that has developed in the third gen community, where there is a known issue (that is ignored by Toyota currently) that the had a string of tacos that left the assembly line slightly low on trans fluid, which over the long term use of the vehicle, causes premature failure (around 40-120k miles) of the transmission. I love my truck but I feel betrayed by Toyota for their negligence at the factory, and the service department for BSing me and costing me 7k.