Any redflags in my 2023 build?

Yeah dude I’m on stock uppers. All good in this front! And if in the future require UCA’s will be going for polyperformance.

https://www.polyperformance.com/poly-performance-upper-control-arms-for-toyota

 

Sorry, my front shocks are 90021. So if you’ve got 2.5”-3” of lift, then you will only have like an inch of downtravel if your front shocks are not extended travel.

I think 2886 coils with stock weight up front would be very stiff.

 

Guy I'm just upgrading the suspension to get bigger tires. It gives the truck more clearance offroad and bigger tires preform better offroad. You can read about this online at great length. Its a pure upgrade with no drawbacks. Theres no speculations about it, nothing to decipher or learn. I want to maximize my trucks performance in the hilly muddy forest terrain where I live. This isnt a spacer/block lift or something. Should I wait until I get stuck before I buy a wench too?

 

It’s a common misconception that a lift is required to fit larger tires on the Tacoma. If you plan to drive in a straight line and never cycle your suspension then yes.

It’s the width of the tire that’s the problem.

 

That's actually the opposite of what they've been saying. They've been saying that a stock truck with only a tire upgrade is quite capable

You can read about this online at great length

 

No need for a lift for that, just a good alignment, some trimming and proper offset in the wheels. The larger tire diameter is what will actually give you the biggest benefit by increasing ground clearance.

 

A lift adds ground clearance. A Tacoma lifted on 33s is better then an unlifted Tacoma chopped up to fit 33s on stock suspension. Theres no drawback or downsides. Its pretty obvious. I Think you should take your own advice because trying to argue against this comes across like your just salty your on a stock rig and have to poo poo people for upgrading their trucks and feign like the stock truck is the best out of some kinda of insecurity about your own truck.

 

Let us know if you find any red flags

 

AHH OK. So the plan is to add an aftermarket bumper and winch soon so it should help. I'm expecting about 1.5 inches of down travel. Depending on how this preforms I may go your springs. Definitely going to drive like a dump truck with no added front end weight. Ill definitely make sure to update this thread about how that issue plays out and how I fix it if it becomes an issue.

 

I think you went a bit overboard on this last statement but you posted for advice. Everyone who commented offered solid advice.
I ordered my Trd pro. Yeah comes with some nice stuff on it. I don’t have it as it’s somewhere either being built or in transport. I do plan it seeing how it feels first off road. I do plan on the Westcottdesigns kit for the stock Fox shocks as they’re quite capable. Yeh, I want 33’s too on TE37XT.
But just throwing random stuff on your rig at first to have 33’s. You’re going to spend a lot more down the road as you figure it out vs saving up more $$ for better suspension.

 

Hahaha

 

Im not saving for a more expensive shocks because I don't need them. I really don't see much value in the adjustability, the improved ride or the cooling capability's of the high end remote reservoir shocks. They are awesome but I just don't need them for how ill be using the truck. Im not going to be racing the truck in the desert. Its not like ARB/OME shocks are junk you said it yourself they are comparable to 5100s. The leafsprings will be replaced like I explained in the OP. The UCAs are random tbh but everything else is proven parts. I was hoping to ask about those UCAs and fitment in this thread not have a philosophical debate about why I dont NEED to lift my truck.

 

A lift does not add actual ground clearance. The lowest parts of your truck are exactly the same height above the ground as a stock truck.

 

Asks for red flags, gets told red flags, doesn’t accept red flags.

 

type "does a suspension lift increase ground clearance" into google. I see what you mean but that's not the only way to measure ground clearance. It improves your approach and departure angles.

 

This is essentially what im going for minus the airbags but with 285/75/17 and an eventual regear. How was the ride before and after the bumpers and winch?

 

Guess I’ll throw my 2 pesos into the ante. I have a 22 SR5. When I bought it I was told get a good set of tires and see what the truck can do.
I listened. I kept the 245/85/16 toyo road tires for highway use and put on some 235/85/16 dynapro at2. They were light for e rated so I went with them. Not popular but they were good for me at the time.
I’ve had that thing on creek crossings, trails in Wyoming and Montana in November, BLM lands that has some rigorous stuff, blah blah blah. Even met a few people along the way with totally tricked out rigs. Some were ass snobs and thought their shit made their trucks capable. Others were accepting. Funny how the guys with the big ticket shit were at the same place I was at the end of the day. I just went slower and picked different lines. I had a blast.

When I came home I realized that unless I’m gonna bash the shit out of my truck on big ass rocks I just needed some more compliant shocks and maybe a tru trac in the rear.

Best advice I got was tires and drive it. Maybe you should try the same. Might understand what they mean when they are trying to tell you that your truck is more capable than you think it is stock. I had a few oh fuck moments. The truck just laughed and told me not to shit my pants. I learned a lot of respect for what my plain Jane taco can do.

 

There's been a few lessons learned through the stages of my truck I'll share here.
-Lifts look cool but to much lift kills performance.
I originally had mine set to 3" anticipating spring settle and the additional weight of my bumper/winch to settle it around 2". The 3 months running it at 3" was honestly miserable every bump caused the front end to top out constantly. Now that I'm sitting around 2.25" it has greatly improved and even at that I'm considering dropping it to 1.75 to get some more down travel while on the trail.
Moral of the story anything over 2" is to much lift.
-Bigger tires kill what little economy these trucks have from factory.
I ran stock, 265/70r17, 285/70r17 and now 295/70r17
I only drive this truck on weekends so the drop in economy sucks but I'm willing to deal with it for the performance and look.
Plan on a tune asap or you will be lucky to ever see 5 gear going down hill with a tailwind.
-wheel weight, when shopping around for wheels be mindful of how heavy they are I was able to shave 10lbs off each corner when I swapped out my fuels for ssw wheels. Did this at the same time as my 295's the increase in tire weight ended up a wash truck driver virtually the same.
-Run away from spc uca's my x axis joints failed in 8,000 km same with a buddies 4 runner and a multiple other guys here ran into the same issue. They were warrantied fine but seeing so many different batch numbers with the same issue I moved over to dirt king and so far I havnt looked back.
-alignment over lift
I ran a +1 wheel with 285's with no chop on that 2ish lift for a year and would only tag my mudflap mount on occasion. This was at first aligned with spc's then with the dirt kings and truck got used offroad. It's now chopped to fit 295's on a -25 wheel

End of the day most products on the market will be fine and an opinion on this vs that will come up for debate here constantly but ultimately to many different experiences.

To your question on bump stops. I'm on stock and just lightly kiss the flares under full compression with a -25. At a -6 it will tuck a little better wouldn't worry about it.

 

Why am I tagged here? Lol

 

None of us know this guy or what wheelin means to him. Will those parts work? Probably as long as he is serious about hacking at it until it doesn't rub going around corners. Lifts help you fit a bigger tire right until you stuff it back up. Also, OP, if you are thinking you need help with approach and departure angle look at some skids. Only time those angles have caused me concern I was also about to deal with break over angle also.

Would I pick those brands and that configuration? Nah, but I probably have different priorities. Anyone want to bet the first part on that list that gets replaced? I've got either the UCAs because the geometry doesn't help alignment (I don't know if it does or doesn't, just a guess), followed by replacing the add a leaf with a proper pack. So I guess those are my red flags. But ultimately we are all just imposing our values of 'worth it' onto this plan.