4th Gen Tacoma (2024+)

ThAkki · Apr 5, 2023

stevesnj said: ↑

And the 2nd gen peeps will that didn't like the 3rd will buy the 4th gen.
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Pretty much. Hahaha

MTB_Tacoma · Apr 5, 2023

greengs said: ↑

It's the same across the land. You can charge more than MSRP in Quebec as well. The S stands for suggested. You can charge less or more. All you have to do it clearly advertise this. What is illegal is posting a price online and then when you go to buy the car adding the markup.

From your link:

224. No merchant, manufacturer or advertiser may, by any means whatsoever:

(a) give, in an advertising message, less importance to the price of a set of goods or services than to the price of one of the goods or services making up that set;

(b) subject to sections 244 to 247, disclose, in an advertisement, the amount of the periodic payments to be made for the acquisition of a good or the obtaining of a service without also disclosing the total price of the good or service nor make it stand out in a more obvious way;

(c) charge a higher price for goods or services than advertised.

So just like in my example, as long as they don't advertise the price without mark-up, they are good. You will often see no price listed for this reason and to "call for $". All that being said markups are a lot less common in Canada than USA. In fact they are pretty rare. What is more common like you said is the sleazy add ons they try to force. But if you search long enough you can find a deal. I paid under MSRP for my PRO in Alberta.
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No, because Toyota Canada advertises the price. What’s at the dealership has to be the same or lower. Quebec is very aggressive about this.

Chad 22 · Apr 5, 2023

Horseshoez said: ↑

Holy crap, I went out of town for a freakin' day for a meeting and come back to 600+ new messages in this thread. WTH?
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This is where all the cool kids are hanging out.

stevesnj · Apr 5, 2023

ThAkki said: ↑

Pretty much. Hahaha
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and no one will buy the 5th gen because all the electric car batteries will burn the world down and kill everyone.

stevesnj · Apr 5, 2023

Chad 22 said: ↑

This is where all the cool kids are hanging out.
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and we're sexy

It's a TRD Thang · Apr 5, 2023

ThAkki said: ↑

Here’s what people were saying when they released the 3rd gen teaser 9 yrs ago.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-tacoma-social-media-leak.354949/
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So I scanned that first page , same amount of complaints and also the second gen tundra had an ugly front end

DingleTower · Apr 5, 2023

MTB_Tacoma said: ↑

Ok, in Canada. In Quebec, that can’t happen. That’s the law (https://lpc.quebec/articles/article-224/).
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This says the same thing just in French. The price can't be more than what is advertised.

These laws don't prevent dealers from charging more than MSRP they just prevent bait and switches.

There is no provincial law that I'm aware of that actually bars a dealer from charging more than MSRP or adding $6000 for predator steps and a bit of 3M.

Chad 22 · Apr 5, 2023

Turd Ferguson said: ↑

It’s not all full-size trucks getting bad mpg mainly just Toyota. You can get a Ram with the 5.7 hemi and get 22 mpg. It makes no sense why Toyota couldn’t get better mpg out of the Tundra with the same size engine.
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That hemi won't get 22 unless you're traveling down hill both ways.
More like 17, 18 if you're lucky.
The chevy 5.3 like 18, 19 if you're lucky.
Much like their inflated MSRP number's, their mpg numbers are "generous".
The tacoma gets 22-23 in the same driving conditions, by the same driver. (Flat, 2 lane, cc set around 58-60, 25 mile commute.)

But... as always YMMV

Tacospike · Apr 5, 2023

Y2kbaja said: ↑

Given the Tundra HV only gets 2mpg more than the non HV I highly doubt the Tacoma HV will be pushing 30mpg. The Prius gets really good mpg, the other Hybrid models (Camry, Corolla) don't get no where near the Prius mpg.
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Two more MPG but also 50 more HP and 100+ ft lbs torque

Chad 22 · Apr 5, 2023

Tacospike said: ↑

Two more MPG but also 50 more HP and 100+ ft lbs torque
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Can I get a HELL YEAH!?!?!!!

stevesnj · Apr 5, 2023

If they use the Grand Highlander engines you're talking low 30mpg numbers.

fourfourone · Apr 5, 2023

Chad 22 said: ↑

That hemi won't get 22 unless you're traveling down hill both ways.
More like 17, 18 if you're lucky.
The chevy 5.3 like 18, 19 if you're lucky.
Much like their inflated MSRP number's, their mpg numbers are "generous".
The tacoma gets 22-23 in the same driving conditions, by the same driver. (Flat, 2 lane, cc set around 58-60, 25 mile commute.)

But... as always YMMV
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My Silverado trail boss got almost the same exact fuel economy as my 3rd gen. 18-19 mpg. 25 miles commute. half highway half stop and go.

Tunngavik · Apr 5, 2023

Telkins88 said: ↑

I changed the lighting in the picture on Toyota’s website to try to get a little more detail. Two things I noticed:
1.Rear lower controls to support everyone’s thoughts it will be rear coil spring suspension instead of leaf springs.
2.The rear departure angle doesn’t look very good.

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Wheels / tires look small. I noticed this on a few test mule shots as well.

Turd Ferguson · Apr 5, 2023

Chad 22 said: ↑

That hemi won't get 22 unless you're traveling down hill both ways.
More like 17, 18 if you're lucky.
The chevy 5.3 like 18, 19 if you're lucky.
Much like their inflated MSRP number's, their mpg numbers are "generous".
The tacoma gets 22-23 in the same driving conditions, by the same driver. (Flat, 2 lane, cc set around 58-60, 25 mile commute.)

But... as always YMMV
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And what are you getting in a 5.7 Tundra driving the same way?

Jpmurph · Apr 5, 2023

Do any of the new Toyota i4 hybrid models use the "Iforce" branding? I believe they are just using the Hybrid max branding. Maybe that is indicating v6 power in TRD Pro.

Turd Ferguson · Apr 5, 2023

stevesnj said: ↑

If they use the Grand Highlander engines you're talking low 30mpg numbers.
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I don’t think low 30’s mpgs in a Tacoma are ever happening.

fourfourone · Apr 5, 2023

Turd Ferguson said: ↑

And what are you getting in a 5.7 Tundra driving the same way?
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Sharpish · Apr 5, 2023

Jpmurph said: ↑

Do any of the new Toyota i4 hybrid models use the "Iforce" branding? I believe they are just using the Hybrid max branding. Maybe that is indicating v6 power in TRD Pro.
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I force Max is the branding for the tundra and Tacoma. The tundra has the electric motor sandwiched between engine and tranny with the rest of the drivetrain traditional part time 4WD.

Sharpish · Apr 5, 2023

Other hybrid systems use electric motors on one axle and gas power on the other. Or an additional electric motor on the gas axle.

6starwars · Apr 5, 2023

Tunngavik said: ↑

Wheels / tires look small. I noticed this on a few test mule shots as well.
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I think the Tundra has the same problem. Will need to see if that’s the case with the 4th Gen, but that’s been the case with 2 & 3 IMO.

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