Adaptive cruise hidden benefit

Yes, because it has no traction to control the vehicle. That is aside the point, you said the vehicle has no frame of reference, that is not correct.

I know what driving on ice is like, learned how to drive in northern minnesota

 

There is a new TV commercial. Mother/son in the car, looking sad. Mother turns on the "auto driving", takes her eyes completely off the road and starts using hand-language with the boy who is now happy.

"Happiness while driving is now possible with Ford!"

Quality time with a child? Yes. At the expense of public safety? Never.

 

Leave it to Ford. Another better idea.

 

Again, I am NOT saying it should in any way take over for the driver. I clearly articulated that. It is NOT a stand in. It can however ASSIST the driver, adding another layer. Stop saying this is about the cruise is doing the job of the driver, it is not and that not what was said. Using it does NOT mean you are NOT paying attention so stop using that as your argument.

I use cruise everywhere, even downtown. You may stop paying attention when you use cruise but that does not mean everyone does. Cruise allows me to pay MORE attention to what is happening because it has now allowed me to focus on other things and not on maintaining a consistent speed.

The entire premise of your argument is that the driver has shifted the burden of driving to the cruise, it has been said that that is NOT what is happening.

 

I'm utterly befuddled by the above...

Really??

- I hope you don't forget to spit out the gum when you get in the car...

 

*sigh*
You have only have the ability to control three things in your vehicle:
Acceleration
Deceleration
Direction of Travel

Using cruise, you give up 33% of your vehicle control. Sorry, it is what it is. You can justify all the "layers" you want in your head but at the end of the day, you have AI controlling one of these things and not you.

 

Why would using cruise give that up? I still have every bit of control I did before cruise was engaged. The wheel is there, the brakes are there, the throttle is there, I have given nothing up.

Do you guys seriously take your mind off driving when using cruise? That is the only way I can think people believe that others are also not driving when they use cruise.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJ...vbiBtYXkgZ29kIGhhdmUgbWVyY3kgb24geW91ciBzb3Vs

 

This is the key phrase that keeps undermining your argument. No it can not. Cruise was not designed as an assistive safety device. You should not be magically able to pay "more" attention than what you already had under manual control. To say otherwise means that you are unsafely relying on it to perform functions that you should be doing.

Cruise on or off does not change my attention level. However, I am under no illusion that cruise helps reaction times. The Tacoma's cruise is actually far, FAR worse at reacting than my foot. See, its not just about paying attention, its responding. And the cruise frankly sucks hind tit at responding. To say that it performs well in traffic...well let's just say thats the exact reason why I don't engage cruise in town. There are way too many people who think that this is somehow ok.

 

Cruise control adds another step and time delay in any emergency action you may need to take and braking (when it sees an object) or accelerating (when it loses sight of the object) may be the wrong steps to take. That means manually turning it off. More fumbling about.

Butt then the OP said he uses it to see what he can not see.

The unknown unknowns

 

The cruise uses the same device that IS an assistive safety device. It is literally a technology that can determine distances and approach speed BETTER than your eye can.

I never said I can pay attention to MORE things, I said I can pay more attention to OTHER things. Task saturation is a recognized issue

Again, nobody said RELYING ON. The entire premise of what you said is built up on that fact but it is entirely untrue.

 

Turning it off takes the exact same steps as you would need to be performing anyways. The radar cruise will not "lose sight" of something, that isn't how radars work, if it is obscured it knows it and disables the system. It knows there is a car there, or that there is not a car there, or that it cannot tell and cannot be used.

 

You realize thats the same exact statement right? If you are paying more attention to OTHER things, then attention is being taken AWAY from somewhere else. And how does that not translate to relying? Because you might not be saying the word relying, but you are describing the very definition of relying.

 

To be brutally honest ... you are an accident waiting to happen.

 

I don't use cruise control in the rain. I thought even in the manual it says not to use it. Also, I would assume that in heavy rain or snow, there is a much higher risk of it messing with the sensor inside the emblem and then you could really be in bad shape if it malfunctions or reads wrong. I would think it's better to just drive carefully for the conditions and not rely on any of the truck features, but maybe it's just me.

 

It is not the exact same statement.

Because you shouldn't be checking your mirrors? Seeing what is coming up behind you? Seeing what the cars in front of the car in front of you is doing? Seeing what traffic around you is doing? Every one of those things draws your attention away for a split second. If you cannot possibly take your eyes away from the road directly in front of you then you are ignorant of those things, if you are focused on those things then you have taken your attention away from the road in front of you. Having a feature to fill those gaps is far from RELYING on it. You cannot pay attention to all things at all times.

 

Those that think they are good drivers are the least likely to be so

 

Again, and i'm out. When adaptive cruise is on, who/what accelerates and decelerates the vehicle? Not you! Again, it's not hard.
Look, adaptive cruise is designed to do keep a distance from you and someone in front of you. When you have it turned on, ADAPTIVE CRUISE decides when to accelerate or brake, not you. You have ceded control of the vehicle until you override or disable that function.

 

The fact that you think the feature fills in the gaps is what everyone else is rallying against.

We are talking in circles, and you keep attempting to move the goalpost.

I'm done.